Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
I've only read a few ancient texts on the release of pressure - Penthouse, Climax etc. But once I digested the detail I was a master for life.
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| Author: | BlueMark [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Pressure Point- An Explanation |
I must admit I have not enjoyed having something I am passionate about dragged through the public domain the way it has over the past few days. The majority of us who practice the martial arts on a daily basis are well aware of the misinformation that abounds about the arts we practice. This situation is not helped by various media, those who claim to know things they don’t or exploit the arts for commercial gain. Body combat, Taebo anyone? When you strip away the myths and legends Martial Arts are simply about perfecting ones character. The further one travels along the path the more you realise the Martial Arts are less about punching and kicking and more about not punching and kicking. Still the punching and kicking is fun But I digress Pressure Point, yes it is a part of Martial Arts and is usually practiced within Kung Fu, Ninjutsu, Aikido, Kenpo and Karate. And it is only practiced by those of high rank and very few at that. Within Australia there would be only a very small handful of people proficient in pressure point application and they do not teach it to just anybody. So if somebody claims to know pressure point, they don’t. I have a copy of an ancient text on pressure points called ‘Bubishi’ I have studied it but would not claim to be able to apply its teachings in any meaningful way. Essentially the application of pressure point techniques involve the striking of various points of the nervous system usually with a open hand ‘spear’ or palm strike, the closed fist is used in some circumstances. These techniques are designed to interfere with the transmission of electrical nerve impulses from the brain to the body, causing pain and some incapacitation Anyone who has had a ‘stinger’ can understand what this can feel like. So to what Chris did. Let’s be clear it was not, I repeat it was not in anyway an application of a pressure point technique. Firstly he was not even near a pressure point. Of the thirty six vital points located on the body, the nearest is located behind the upper jaw, there is a minor one located under the ear lobe that can cause pain but not much else. Secondly the application was all wrong, I mean seriously wrong. Wiggling your thumb around the side of someone’s head is well, wiggling your thumb around the side of someone’s head. To be honest I am embarrassed for Chris about what has happened, he made a mistake and has paid for it. So be it. Finally Pressure Point application is a subject of much debate within the martial arts community. Some believe some don’t. Me, well I subscribe to some of it, but cutting through the myths to get to the kernel of truth is difficult. And that is what Martial Arts are all about. BlueMark is an instructor/ trains in Shukokai Karate, a practitioner of Iaido (ancient Japanese sword art) and a student of Taoism and Zen. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
I think the term "pressure point" is used when in reality it's more like a "submission point" or similar. The tendon over the collarbone, the point behind the bottom jaw are two examples of those. |
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| Author: | Wild Blue Yonder [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
I've only read a few ancient texts on the release of pressure - Penthouse, Climax etc. But once I digested the detail I was a master for life. |
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Wild Blue Yonder wrote: I've only read a few ancient texts on the release of pressure - Penthouse, Climax etc. But once I digested the detail I was a master for life.
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
They say finding the exact pressure point is almost as hard as finding the 'G" Spot to both of them I say why would you even bother And I love it when I here Martial Arts people say it not about kicking and punching Psst BM all the other stuff they teach is to hide the fact that your kicking and punching someone |
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| Author: | bluechucky [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
BlueMark wrote: BlueMark is an instructor/ trains in Shukokai Karate, a practitioner of Iaido (ancient Japanese sword art) and a student of Taoism and Zen, and is a commie completed for accuracy! |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
bluechucky wrote: BlueMark wrote: BlueMark is an instructor/ trains in Shukokai Karate, a practitioner of Iaido (ancient Japanese sword art) and a student of Taoism and Zen, and is a commie completed for accuracy! 
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| Author: | Wojee [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Wild Blue Yonder wrote: I've only read a few ancient texts on the release of pressure - Penthouse, Climax etc. But once I digested the detail I was a masturbator for life. Edited for accuracy. |
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| Author: | BlueMark [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Well, so much for me trying to post something intelligent and hopefully bringing a greater understanding to the Pressure Point issue  Should have known better
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| Author: | blu944 [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
His action was no different to what countless cops do to drunk idiots who resist arrest. The fact of the matter is, I'm sure someone like BM could render someone limp and in plenty of pain with an appropriate strike, but Judd did bugger all to Rischetelli and he's copped 3 weeks for it. The penalty is all wrapped up in the Aussie take on what is a low act vs what is fair retribution. You can't spit, ankle tap, gouge or wink strangely but you can line a bloke up crack his sternum, break his ribs and puncture his lungs and it's play on. The tribunal needs to pay closer attention to what the outcome of an indescretion is. |
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| Author: | Wojee [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
*Looks down at shoes contritely* Sorry BM. |
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| Author: | DownUnderChick [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
It boggles the mind BM that Juddy would have pulled out that explaination unless he is more well read than the Financial Review. BM, pressure point sounds dangerous though as how a body will react to it will differ from person to person. Would you agree. |
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| Author: | BlueMark [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Pressure Point applications are difficult to apply and training required to employ them effectively is extensive, its not something I would try in "real life' For restraint I would apply various holds and arm locks to give a chance to talk the attacker down. To stop someone cold, I would employ various strikes and kicks and try to 'break contact' but if it was serious situation ie someone with a weapon, I would strike the vunerable areas of the throat or preferably break a limb or joint. Then I would patch em up and offer counselling
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| Author: | Wojee [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
blu944 wrote: His action was no different to what countless cops do to drunk idiots who resist arrest. The fact of the matter is, I'm sure someone like BM could render someone limp and in plenty of pain with an appropriate strike, but Judd did bugger all to Rischetelli and he's copped 3 weeks for it. The penalty is all wrapped up in the Aussie take on what is a low act vs what is fair retribution. You can't spit, ankle tap, gouge or wink strangely but you can line a bloke up crack his sternum, break his ribs and puncture his lungs and it's play on. The tribunal needs to pay closer attention to what the outcome of an indescretion is. It's a penalty based on "could have". Judd's fingers in the bloke's face "could have" caused serious eye damage, but they didn't cause any. Judd attempting to find a pressure point "could have" caused injury, but it didn't cause any. I must also add that Chris Judd is the worst proponent of the eye-gouge that I have ever seen if that's indeed what he was suspended for, and if not he's the worse proponent of the pressure point attack that I've ever seen. |
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| Author: | BlueMark [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Wojee wrote: [I must also add that Chris Judd is the worst proponent of the eye-gouge that I have ever seen if that's indeed what he was suspended for, and if not he's the worse proponent of the pressure point attack that I've ever seen. My thoughts exactly. |
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| Author: | woof [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
BlueMark wrote: Pressure Point applications are difficult to apply and training required to employ them effectively is extensive, its not something I would try in "real life' For restraint I would apply various holds and arm locks to give a chance to talk the attacker down. To stop someone cold, I would employ various strikes and kicks and try to 'break contact' but if it was serious situation ie someone with a weapon, I would strike the vunerable areas of the throat or preferably break a limb or joint. Then I would patch em up and offer counselling Doing anything on Thursday night at about 5.30pm? |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
woof wrote: BlueMark wrote: Pressure Point applications are difficult to apply and training required to employ them effectively is extensive, its not something I would try in "real life' For restraint I would apply various holds and arm locks to give a chance to talk the attacker down. To stop someone cold, I would employ various strikes and kicks and try to 'break contact' but if it was serious situation ie someone with a weapon, I would strike the vunerable areas of the throat or preferably break a limb or joint. Then I would patch em up and offer counselling Doing anything on Thursday night at about 5.30pm? You meeting with Alan Didak? |
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| Author: | The Hoff [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Kaptain Kouta wrote: I think the term "pressure point" is used when in reality it's more like a "submission point" or similar. The tendon over the collarbone, the point behind the bottom jaw are two examples of those. Hmm, wasn't aiming for that spot between the nose and top lip, we he? Fail there too. |
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| Author: | Curtley Ambrose [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
Aren't pressure point techniques used in those eastern disciplines such as " Yakitori " or "Sudoku"??? |
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| Author: | killpies [ Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pressure Point- An Explanation |
BlueMark wrote: Then I would patch em up and offer counselling  I became a first aid officier at my work recently. My boss asked me why i wanted to volunteer. I said well I'm learning how to better hurt people in self defence, the least i can do is patch them up afterwards! |
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