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 Post subject: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Pro:

I saw the best mark in the last 20 years

Cons:

B: Aaron Joseph, Bret Thornton, Paul Bower
HB: Jordan Russell, Chris Johnson, Simon Wiggins
C: Kade Simpson, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy
HF: Ryan Houlihan, Andrew Walker, Andrew Carrazzo
F: Setanta O’hAilpin, Brendan Fevola, Chris Yarran
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Chris Judd, Nick Stevens
I/C: Dennis Armfield, Steven Browne, Shaun Hampson, Heath Scotland
Emg: Adam Bentick, Brad Fisher, Sam Jacobs

In: Armfield, Browne, Hampson, Johnson, Yarran
Out: Eddie Betts (club susp), Cameron Cloke (club susp), Jeff Garlett (club susp), Joe Anderson, Richard Hadley (arm)

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 pm 
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Pros: I reckon 12 wins and 7th is way more than what I thought we would win and finish given my doubts over Ratts's ability so job well done to him and the boys for the home and away season.

Cons: We really had a chance to lock in a home final but looked disinterested. Thought we would be beat this mob in Melbourne but were very lazy. Is it a reality check or is it a preview of an early exit from September??? The former would be nice.

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:27 pm 
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Pro

I thought fev was good considering delivery

Gibbs was our best

Cons

Worst performance of the year in round 22

difference between best and worse of team shocking

Gartlett Betts and Cloke hang your head

Kick oouts from points constituted a 7 point play for Crows


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:32 pm 
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Good season by us.
Anything that happens from here on in is a bonus.

Crows are the best team we have played this season. I hope they win the flag and not collingwood or St kilda.


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:39 pm 
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Pros:

*Crickets*

Cons:
Russell
Yarran
Thornton
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..

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:42 pm 
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Pros
- Gibbs fantastic
- Yarran's defensive efforts and some nice touches. Can't wait to watch him play next year and beyond.
- Stevens, Scotland, Walker and Armfield tried hard and were effective.

Cons
- Pretty much everyone else - insipid effort. Hardly noticed Murphy and Judd quiet.
- We really need a tall forward option
- Defence very ordinary without Waite and/or Jamo

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:54 pm 
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PROS

Hampson - Still can't hit a Blue coloured person with his taps, but he's coming along well. Has a real go.
Yarran - Not quite the finished article and lacks confidence to take the shots that he will in time, but has answered my knock on him from what I saw early in the year, that he's soft and lazy in mind and body. Some great chase and tackles.
Fevola - Kicked straight from set shots. Solid.
Russell - another solid effort, with a few clangers
Gibbs - Good game, when the rest of the stars were nowhere
Joseph - wait till next year - a gun of the future in a wide variety of roles

CONS

Bower - has been ordinary in recent weeks and was bloody horrible tonight
Judd - has dropped off markedly in recent weeks and you can go on and on about him not getting protection but great players stand up and don't wait for help. Needs to impose himself next week
Murph - no impact, lazy
Kreuzer - has dropped off - the kid must be exhausted. Bring in Warnock or Jacobs and play him forward next week.
Thornton - first bad game in ages
Scotland - beaten when it counted. 34 touches...pfft
Of course there were many more but CBF


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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Adelaide will smash Essendon* to the stone-age next week

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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How anyone can praise Russells post 1st quarter performance bewilders me, he was terrible. Just plain awful.

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:04 pm 
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Juzzy wrote:
How anyone can praise Russells post 1st quarter performance bewilders me, he was terrible. Just plain awful.


I liked what he was trying to do. The team needed him to run and take risks.

Agreed he stuffed it up a bit and today would be a day he would rather forget.


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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Donstuie wrote:
Pro:
Adelaide will smash Essendon* to the stone-age next week


You wish!!!!.... :razz: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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The thing was that he didn't learn from his mistakes.. How many times did he try bombing it up to Kruezer which resulted in a turnover? I counted 3

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:36 pm 
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Not really sure how anyone can find that many pros to a team that was smashed by 72 points a week before their first final in years. Although, I am guessing if you're putting Russell's performance tonight as a pro, the glasses are well and truly red.

I think the only pro I could see was forward pressure. we actually kicked an ok score and our forwards for the most part worked hard. i do not really think we missed any of the "club enforced outs", but we definitely missed someone feeding the ball out.

We have a week to fix a lot of problems and i think tonight really highlighted exactly where we are.

Kick-ins are just plain ugly and we would have been better just conceeding a goal. How many times did we kick in only to see it sale back over our heads for a goal? I think I counted 7 times, which is at least half the margin we were belted by.

I think we can still beat Brissie, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done between now and then.

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:39 pm 
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Pros..The game ended
There was a great mark.
Cons..The game started
The mark was from the other team.

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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Juzzy wrote:
The thing was that he didn't learn from his mistakes.. How many times did he try bombing it up to Kruezer which resulted in a turnover? I counted 3


Well no one was giving him a decent option anywhere. And despite having plenty of time to setup front and square in front of Kreuzer as the ball came out, no one did. Piss poor lazy undisciplined efforts.

I actually liked what I saw from Russell today, he tried to do the team things and get the ball moving when most of his team mates were half hearted, lazy and not presenting. Yes he had a few skill errors, but he tried damn hard.


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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[I actually liked what I saw from Russell today, he tried to do the team things and get the ball moving when most of his team mates were half hearted, lazy and not presenting. Yes he had a few skill errors, but he tried damn hard.


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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Pro: Thought Fev tried all day
Con: Thought he was one of very few

Pro: We won't be playing Essendon* next week
Con: If we play like that next week, it won't matter who we play

Pro: We got a fantastic lesson in teamwork and commitment
Con: It was on the field

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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Pro:
Gibbs.
Yarran to a degree.
I saw a great mark.

Con:
I saw everything else.


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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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Cons - Another big loss to the crows, continue to struggle against well drilled defensive sides.

Pros - Surfing TC on train to Warsaw on 3 G mobile !

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 Post subject: Re: R22 Pros and Cons
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pro

stevens was good in first half before the knock
simmo was good till his intensity dropped off
yarran
thornton reasonably well on a man 6 inches taller with NO ONE COMIN IN TO HELP HIM
forward worked hard early to keep ball in there

con
damn 7 pt turn arounds our kicks are bloody awful to say the least
lack of vision and smarts..flipping the ball to a player that was in just as much trouble
no helpin each out in the backs
awful display by the majority of our players (hopefully a pre finals yip)

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