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I watched the match at my Sister's place (well, at least until my Brother-in-Law came home and took the remote back and insisted on watching the Rugby League. Bloody Queenslander.) at Newcastle. I've just returned home, and have had 3 hours or so pondering time of the match I just saw.

Yeah, today's loss sucked balls. But, we're in the finals. 13-9 record this year. I give that a big :thumbsup:

to the team, and the coaches.

Anyway, I got the feeling that what we might have seen, among the skill errors by all and sundry, was some practicing for next week.

I think the MC decided that the result this week didn't make an iota of difference, and maybe it was more important to try some plays, and a few tweaks which may pay dividends next week. A full dress-rehearsal, if you like.

If that's the case, and they rolled the dice looking to next week, then I can take today's result.

I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, and next week is meal time.

I'm still confident that we can match, and beat Brisbane any time, anywhere.

i think today we witnessed one of this years grand finalists

adelaide are bloody impressive

All I can say to that is..."chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp!"

Between what KK wrote, the lateness of the hour and the weird little avatar...I'm going nuts! :donk:

You know what I think today might have been?

Lazy, immature tripe, where several midfielders refused to take responsibility for their direct opponent.

The flow-on effect from that was immense; it made Adelaide look like they had a spare man everywhere. How can a team have a forward and defensive line work so hard, only to have a bunch of blokes in the middle come in and literally !@#$%& it up for the rest of them.

If I was Jordan Russell, I'd be !@#$%& frightened of kicking it to them too. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU DELIVERED.

NONE. Worst performance I have seen in a VERY long time.

jimmae wrote:

jim, I think the key word you used there is 'immature'.

It's showed up on field and in the coaches box at different times all year.

This year has brought a lot experience that should toughen up the young minds for the years ahead.

That 'should' is my only worry.

Next week will bring invaluable experience.

The well drilled teams are way too good for us...

Fevola saying on The Footy Show "we can win the premiership" goes against the mindset the coaching staff have been working hard to instil since we were thrashed by Essendon* and Collingwood. We were way ahead of ourselves then too. They must be very frustrated.
Once again I find myself doubting if we can win a premiership with this guy on board.

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:58 am ]
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I watched the match at my Sister's place (well, at least until my Brother-in-Law came home and took the remote back and insisted on watching the Rugby League. Bloody Queenslander.) at Newcastle. I've just returned home, and have had 3 hours or so pondering time of the match I just saw. Yeah, today's loss sucked balls. But, we're in the finals. 13-9 record this year. I give that a big to the team, and the coaches. Anyway, I got the feeling that what we might have seen, among the skill errors by all and sundry, was some practicing for next week. I think the MC decided that the result this week didn't make an iota of difference, and maybe it was more important to try some plays, and a few tweaks which may pay dividends next week. A full dress-rehearsal, if you like. If that's the case, and they rolled the dice looking to next week, then I can take today's result. I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, and next week is meal time. I'm still confident that we can match, and beat Brisbane any time, anywhere.

Author:	Donstuie [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:00 am ]
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Will that make you sleep better tonight?

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:08 am ]
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I'm gonna sleep just fine regardless. We were up against a real contender today. Adelaide can beat any team going, and they stepped it up a gear today. Kudos to them, and like I said in the match thread, we'd love to be watching footy of that quality of Carlton weren't on the receiving end. There was no way we were going to keep up the first quarter's intensity for all 80 minutes. I have no issue with the MC doing a little long-term coaching, and sacrificing what is really in the end an inconsequential match. I was disappointed with the result, sure. Pissed off at some of the stupid turnovers and skill errors. But if I'm right, we'll be laughing it up next weekend.

Author:	The Hoff [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:08 am ]
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Kaptain Kouta wrote: I watched the match at my Sister's place (well, at least until my Brother-in-Law came home and took the remote back and insisted on watching the Rugby League. Bloody Queenslander.) at Newcastle. I've just returned home, and have had 3 hours or so pondering time of the match I just saw. Yeah, today's loss sucked balls. But, we're in the finals. 13-9 record this year. I give that a big to the team, and the coaches. Anyway, I got the feeling that what we might have seen, among the skill errors by all and sundry, was some practicing for next week. I think the MC decided that the result this week didn't make an iota of difference, and maybe it was more important to try some plays, and a few tweaks which may pay dividends next week. A full dress-rehearsal, if you like. If that's the case, and they rolled the dice looking to next week, then I can take today's result. I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, and next week is meal time. I'm still confident that we can match, and beat Brisbane any time, anywhere. So what was the Wiggler's little cameo as loose man down back practising for?

Author:	grrofunger [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:49 am ]
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i think today we witnessed one of this years grand finalists adelaide are bloody impressive

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Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:52 am ]
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grrofunger wrote: i think today we witnessed one of this years grand finalists adelaide are bloody impressive I think so. They can account for any team in the 8.

Author:	Donstuie [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:55 am ]
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Yet they haven't knocked off a single REAL contender

Author:	Big Kahuna Boot [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:56 am ]
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..we match up poorly vs the cows.. ..simple as that.. ..we do however match up better against quite a few of the other top 8 teams, and in saying that we're still a smokey.. ..i don't think the granny will be out of the season's two top teams..

Author:	Pafloyul [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:08 am ]
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All I can say to that is..."chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp!" Between what KK wrote, the lateness of the hour and the weird little avatar...I'm going nuts!

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:10 am ]
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Pafloyul wrote: All I can say to that is..."chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp!" Between what KK wrote, the lateness of the hour and the weird little avatar...I'm going nuts! That's about the most coherent thing here tonight.....

Author:	jimmae [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:57 am ]
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You know what I think today might have been? Lazy, immature tripe, where several midfielders refused to take responsibility for their direct opponent. The flow-on effect from that was immense; it made Adelaide look like they had a spare man everywhere. How can a team have a forward and defensive line work so hard, only to have a bunch of blokes in the middle come in and literally @#$%&! it up for the rest of them. If I was Jordan Russell, I'd be @#$%&! frightened of kicking it to them too. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU DELIVERED. NONE. Worst performance I have seen in a VERY long time.

Author:	budzy [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:43 am ]
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jimmae wrote: You know what I think today might have been? Lazy, immature tripe, where several midfielders refused to take responsibility for their direct opponent. The flow-on effect from that was immense; it made Adelaide look like they had a spare man everywhere. How can a team have a forward and defensive line work so hard, only to have a bunch of blokes in the middle come in and literally !@#$%& it up for the rest of them. If I was Jordan Russell, I'd be !@#$%& frightened of kicking it to them too. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU DELIVERED. NONE. Worst performance I have seen in a VERY long time. jim, I think the key word you used there is 'immature'. It's showed up on field and in the coaches box at different times all year. This year has brought a lot experience that should toughen up the young minds for the years ahead. That 'should' is my only worry. Next week will bring invaluable experience.

Author:	Synbad [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:45 am ]
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The well drilled teams are way too good for us...

Author:	bluegirl72 [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:04 am ]
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SIGH.... PS.Can we get off The Chief's case please? Stick it up Johnston or someone else for awhile would ya...

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Author:	isdonis.george [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:20 am ]
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budzy wrote: jimmae wrote: You know what I think today might have been? Lazy, immature tripe, where several midfielders refused to take responsibility for their direct opponent. The flow-on effect from that was immense; it made Adelaide look like they had a spare man everywhere. How can a team have a forward and defensive line work so hard, only to have a bunch of blokes in the middle come in and literally !@#$%& it up for the rest of them. If I was Jordan Russell, I'd be !@#$%& frightened of kicking it to them too. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU DELIVERED. NONE. Worst performance I have seen in a VERY long time. jim, I think the key word you used there is 'immature'. It's showed up on field and in the coaches box at different times all year. This year has brought a lot experience that should toughen up the young minds for the years ahead. That 'should' is my only worry. Next week will bring invaluable experience. Fevola saying on The Footy Show "we can win the premiership" goes against the mindset the coaching staff have been working hard to instil since we were thrashed by Essendon* and Collingwood. We were way ahead of ourselves then too. They must be very frustrated. Once again I find myself doubting if we can win a premiership with this guy on board.

Author:	Virgin Blue [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:34 am ]
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Synbad wrote: The well drilled teams are way too good for us... In a nutshell. How long has it been since we had a great coach? For years now we have been unable to play well drilled, organised football. This team gets by off the odd bit of motivation (revenge for last week; get the monkey off the back etc), and the brilliance of Gibbs, Murphy, Judd, Fevola. Not because we are well drilled. Don't look at the Cats game. They have been atrocious of late, and they are not a well drilled team anyway - they are a team that has dominated the caper for 3 years because of an exceptional midfield and defense that for 3 years just did what they wanted. Bomber is a mediocre coach. Not special. Not unique. Problem we have is we aren't there yet and we don't have the muscle in midifeld like the Cats had.

Author:	bosman [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:40 am ]
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Synbad wrote: The well drilled teams are way too good for us... Well drilled, disciplined and willing to work hard without the ball. isdonis.george wrote: Fevola saying on The Footy Show "we can win the premiership" goes against the mindset the coaching staff have been working hard to instil since we were thrashed by Essendon* and Collingwood. We were way ahead of ourselves then too. They must be very frustrated. Once again I find myself doubting if we can win a premiership with this guy on board. What else do teams try and make the finals for.... to win premierships, not to say we made the finals and finished 7th.. what would you have liked Fev to say - "were just happy to make the 8 and don't care if we win any games and bomb out in the first week" The best team in September wins the flag, not the best team in April, May, June, July and August.

Author:	gsker1 [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:45 am ]
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jimmae wrote: You know what I think today might have been? Lazy, immature tripe, where several midfielders refused to take responsibility for their direct opponent. The flow-on effect from that was immense; it made Adelaide look like they had a spare man everywhere. How can a team have a forward and defensive line work so hard, only to have a bunch of blokes in the middle come in and literally !@#$%& it up for the rest of them. If I was Jordan Russell, I'd be !@#$%& frightened of kicking it to them too. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU DELIVERED. NONE. Worst performance I have seen in a VERY long time. Totally agree jimmae, the midfield only had a mindset of offense. No defensive mindset at all and it cost us dearly. The Crows are a team that don't make mistakes, and when they put the pressure on us, we were not accountable.

Author:	HELLAS BLUE [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:07 am ]
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jimmae wrote: You know what I think today might have been? Lazy, immature tripe, where several midfielders refused to take responsibility for their direct opponent. The flow-on effect from that was immense; it made Adelaide look like they had a spare man everywhere. How can a team have a forward and defensive line work so hard, only to have a bunch of blokes in the middle come in and literally !@#$%& it up for the rest of them. If I was Jordan Russell, I'd be !@#$%& frightened of kicking it to them too. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT YOU DELIVERED. NONE. Worst performance I have seen in a VERY long time. The amount of times our mids just jogged through the middle with their backs to the play whilst their Adelaide opponents ran hard off them to create was amazing, can't say I've ever seen anything like it and hope I never do again. You can play this way against Melbourne (we did) and still win games but against Adelaide (especially Adelaide)?? No frickin way.

Author:	Pafloyul [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:48 am ]
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What's this 'mindset' business. Much of it is innate. Carlton at the moment are the most reactive club in the league, make no mistake. It is a mix of where we are at at the moment in terms of our development (probably a bit behind where we could be based on our worst performances) and the make up of the list. Having a few really flaky types who would have a hard time lining up for Melbourne in place of a few who would really make a difference in some key areas. Some of it will be fixed as we develop if we can get the coaching right and some of it can only be fixed by clever turnover of our list. For instance, if people think all that this club needs is for someone to threaten the likes of Jordan Russell with his life and then he'll suddenly become a skinnier cross between Glen Archer and Anthony Koutoufides then they will be sadly disappointed. I'm not saying that Russell is one of the 'flaky' ones, mind you, just that we may be expecting him to do a role that he may not be cut out for.