blu944 wrote:
we gotta stop conceding behinds; the goal that enevitably follows the kick-out is costing us.
Agree. We'd be better off conceding the goal in the first place - 6 points instead of 7.
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Disastrous result. Played right into their hands - knew we were in trouble when it turned into a shootout. The ultimate football lesson. Leaked like a sieve - hard to blame the backmen, Adelaide's freedom through the midfield was frightening. |
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| Author: | blu944 [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Post-Match Discussion |
we gotta stop conceding behinds; the goal that enevitably follows the kick-out is costing us. |
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Post-Match Discussion |
blu944 wrote: we gotta stop conceding behinds; the goal that enevitably follows the kick-out is costing us. Agree. We'd be better off conceding the goal in the first place - 6 points instead of 7.
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| Author: | marciblue [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Not enough midfield depth and a ridiculously poor defensive aspect through the middle = recipe for disaster! 
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
This week didn't happen. Move on to next week |
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| Author: | camel [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
If ever there was a time to not put a defeat on the autopsy table this is it. Crows were just too good today. We need to dust ourselves off, put this one behind us and start focusing on next week. 
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| Author: | MPH78 [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Off to the Gabba we go... |
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| Author: | Pafloyul [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Adelaide weren't trying to teach us anything. It is in our hands if it is to become a 'lesson' or not. 
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
MPH78 wrote: Off to the Gabba we go... GO SWANS !! |
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| Author: | Ponkstar [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
I think Ratts should have moved Wiggo or Russell into the midfield after the second quarter. They were bigger, stronger, harder and more determined than us - and it was all too easy for them. Not too many positives to come from it. Fev's got his set-shot mojo back, and that's about it. |
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| Author: | Cazzesman [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Well we sure know how to run an opponent into some form before the finals start  Back to the drawing board I guess and it sounds like here's a good place to start .  Regards Cazzesman |
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
We lead 5 goals to one as soon as Essendon* got 20 points up they stopped We tanked - we didn't want to meet Essendon* - we stopped at quarter time they fancy their chances against Brisbane |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
deluded |
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
swans in front already - Micky O goal |
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| Author: | budzy [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
top week, this .. ...Yarran made me smile though.. 
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| Author: | mikkey [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
WE played a poor defensive game in the midfield. Poor work rate and disposal, poor defensive pressure. Backline were midgets compared to the Crows. The first issue was partly due to Hadley not being there and secondly because we did not come to play. Soft and lazy performance. Also the lack of KPP's in the backline is now haunting us with both Jamo and Wait out. We can beat a side like Brisbane if we bounce back ands show some cohones and effort. But I think thats about it. Looks to me that its not just Betts, Garlett and Cloke who thinks just making the finals is good enough and are relaxing. Seems clear that the team has relaxed as soon as they knew we made the 8. Also lazy last week but against a very poor opponent and who still kicked far too many goals against us. We only stand a chance in the finals if we get some spirit and work ethic back into the team - not sure it isn't already too late and even if we change the attitude the lack of height in the back could kill us anyway. I am very disappointed if we end the season on a whimper. |
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| Author: | buzzaaaah [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Today was a mini-final and we came up against a well drilled - battle hardened team. I can't fault the endeavour or the attempts to run and carry the ball but skill errors and decisions were amateurish. We really couldnt get much worse The 3 sleepers in should really take a hard look at themselves |
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| Author: | Warby [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Adelaide took the game to a level above us....it was as 'tho they were tjhe Firsts and we were the Twos. |
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| Author: | Blueboy_Dan [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Adelaide were just too good. Kickins  Johnson Wiggins Yarran 
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| Author: | Effes [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R22: Carlton v Adelaide (Post-Match Discussion) |
Came up against a team who are more experienced, have bigger bodies and have been under a gun coach for 4+ years. Their concentration when it came to zoning was magnificent and their ball movement was also very good. They forced us to bomb long to Kreuzer from kickouts and when they won the ball at half back had the runners and good decision makers through the middle to give easy ball to their forwards. I counted 6 goals to Adelaide as a result of us not being able to bring it out of defence. JR made some clangers however you at least have to give him some credit for trying to run the ball out of there. Continually bombing and hoping to win the crumb isn't going to get you anywhere. It wasn't helped by the poor defensive efforts from our midfield. Early in the game I thought we applied good pressure at half forward and this resulted in a few goals however this pressure dropped off as the game went on. Whenever they won the ball at a stoppage they would spread pretty hard however we didn't appear to want to chase. Few times at centre bounces the sweeper who I think it was Browne or someone else would get drawn towards an Adelaide player who was about to give the ball off, so it was then flicked over the top and the Adelaide player receiving it would run straight at goal with no pressure. At marking contests we appeared to get it wrong a lot of the time when it came to how many players went up to spoil and how many waited for the crumb. We didn't have the crumbers up forward for obvious reasons but all over the ground we had too many up and none waiting for the crumb. |
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