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Author:	simonverbeek [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:28 pm ]
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Bit of a junk football game. 4 points, and not much else to take out of it, except for the unfortunate injury of Hadley. PROS 1. Jordan “Diesel” Russel – where’s it come from? Penetrating kicks that I haven’t seen before 2. Fev has moved back in with his wife and is engaging in less insane behavioural patterns 3. Kade simpson is our most consistent player 4. Carrots had a great first quarter 5. Struggling here – I’d say Garlett but he really had no opponent for most of the game. CONS 1. Backline had its worst game for weeks – Just when we thought we were masking the lack of Jammo and Waite, this happens. 2 guys kicked bags of 5 from the bottom team – embarrassing. Watch every team send their ruckman forward against us now. 2. Clearances!!!!!!!!! We are floundering in the bubble in last 2 weeks and the injury to Hadley will hurt. 3. Forward entries – Fev on 5 guys and still kick to him every time. He created some beautiful decoy channels to lead into today, taking 3 guys with him, but nobody is there. 4. Running Kreuzer into the ground – The poor kid (who is a freak!) just looks ruined at the end of every game. He’ll be walking with a 4 wheel frame by age 25 at this rate. He is such an asset and we should’ve protected him by playing another ruckman this week – bad selections IMO 5. Fumbling! – Why do we fumble in first quarters so often this year? It’s a weird pattern Oh well, we roll on. 2 big games coming up. Play like that against Adelaide and they’ll make mince meat out of us.

Author:	budzy [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:33 pm ]
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Pro Kicking 24 goals! - great for the confidence Con Letting Melbourne kick 15 goals - bit slack at times

Author:	Taff [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:07 pm ]
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Pros Having 11 goal kickers. Garlett has the magic! JR taking them on Simmo Gibbsy Kreuz Clokey had a real dip! 1AW survived some crunches on the shoulders and really ran hard through the middle. Accuracy on goal Cons Poor defensive pressure Joey has some way to go (has time though) Hads' broken arm, he was doing great inside grunt work. Not sure who can take his place. Take that win over the crap I watched live in "that" tanking game a few years ago.

Author:	Gilly34 [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:12 pm ]
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Pro: My man crush on AJ continues ......almost collapsed over the interchange gates in the last after gut busting, smothering, harassing all day

Author:	bosman [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:23 pm ]
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Cons Costco.... Costco.... Costco.... Costco....

Author:	Molly [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:24 pm ]
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Pros: Russell - never thought I would see him come good, but he was excellent. Exactly what we've needed from him all along. If he keeps going like this, then look out AFL competition! Walker - adds so much versatility. A very handy player to be running into form for us. Gibbs - 'nuff said Routine win - how many of those have we had since 2001? They are there to be savoured And to those going we can't play like that against the Crows next week. Well of course we won't. Today was just going through the motions. It was almost a rest week before the finals given Melbourne couldn't win. As I say, take the routine win and move on. We'll be switched on against Adelaide next week, and hopefully we'll really turn up to play against the bummers the following week.

Author:	Cazzesman [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:25 pm ]
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Pros: Did what we had to. 24 gls in a soft game was good enough for me. Another game in Walker and Garlett. JR has stopped reading TC and as a result his confidence has now returned to normal levels. Fev pushing well ahead for the Coleman will keep him firing. Simmo Gibbo Murph Carrots Cons: Hads injury Regards Cazzesman

Author:	blu944 [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:26 pm ]
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You cant pull too many negatives from that game. We'd all love to see them attack Melbourne with the same ferocity they did Geelong or StKilda, but when you're 21 rounds into the season with a finals place assured, it's fair enough for some blokes to be saving their legs.

Author:	camel [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:34 pm ]
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Cazzesman wrote: ...JR has stopped reading TC... JR is Melvey?

Author:	Mrs Caz [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:35 pm ]
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pros: JR Garlett Krooooze Judd Fev Another win! cons: fumbles falling asleep on the job still kicking it to Fev when someone else is a better option.

Author:	Humpers [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:51 pm ]
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Pros - JR - another game into Tex - Garlett Cons - Hads injury - Defence will need to stiffen up next week....pity Jamo is gone for the year. - Too Fev-centric up forward again....if only we had Waite as well. - Was it necessary to play Kreuzer against Melbourne? I would have thought it was a good opportunity to give the kid a rest.

Author:	stubba [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:55 pm ]
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Pro JR becoming the consumate rebounding, creative and penetrating HBF that Carlton needs for its next premiership Con JR ever reading TC

Author:	The Normal One [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:19 pm ]
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My Man!! I wish we had a stickyourfingerupatthedoubters icon. Amazing how he is shining in the the position he played the U18's in

Author:	AlfredE [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:32 pm ]
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Pros... Midfielders all gelling together, in good form, and showing something going into first final series for 8 years 11 Goal kickers, and highest score ince 2001, even though it was against the bottom side. Fev's kicking for goal. 7 goals from 7 shots = 100% efficiency. Garletts game today was brilliant, was it a one off or do we use him in the finals? Russell's game is improving all the time. Becoming an important player in the team with his run & carry. Cons... Hadley's injury, who do we select to replace him, IMO no-one. Bentick & Bentley are not quite up to the same class as Hads. Ando played on Robbo who kicked 5 , and was too loose IMO, just has to tighten up. He just might not be good enough at senior level. Wiggo, played well in patches, but do you feel confident with him playing in the finals? Backline was a little small to handle Melbourne's talls today. Jamar kicked 5 on Thornton. We need tall defenders. Can Austin as an inclusion next week be the answer? Rucks, not enough clearances, ...Concern with our rucks, anyone notice when Kreuze goes up for the centre tap, he doesn't look at the ball, but looks at the man. I would like to see Warnock or Sauce or Hamps come in and do the tapouts, we have lost the tapouts consistently this season. First use of the ball is very important and Warnock might be the answer. This could release Kreuze to the forwarde line as we despaarately need someone in the forward line to take a few marks inside 50. (Fish & Cloke and Hartlett not good enough)

Author:	uncle john [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:41 pm ]
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Pro That's 13 wins for the year!! This is turning out to be a "good year" after all. It would have been nice to have buried the Dees by a 100 points or more, but there-in lies another Pro ...... unhappy with 10 goal wins!! Con Lazy 1st 20 minutes. 2nd ruckman Had's broken arm

Author:	aramari [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:14 pm ]
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Pros Garlett - NRS nom? Russell Gibbs - did some extraordinary things, has matured Murph Fev - 7 goals straight even though Frawley probably beat him Joseph Robbo played well Houlihan was ok Walks accurate raking kicks from half back Simmo Ando was beaten fair and square by Robbo - too good. BUT Ando started some nice passages by taking them on and used the ball ok. Setanta's versatility Cons No forward pressure - that sort of low pressure game where you don't learn much Clearances / Ruck / Hadley - we're in a bit of trouble here. Get Hammer or Warnock in. Why wouldn't they give Warnock a run @ 50% game time We're not getting our hands on the ball, and though Hadley is just a GOP at best we'll miss him with Judd having to play inside from now on Judd - terrible skills by his standards - shouldn't have played Stevens has developed a nice sidestep, helps to mask his serious loss of pace Bower has to spend all summer fixing his handball - it's flowering ridiculous Kreuzer obviously needs to be 2nd ruck - lacks the leap or bulk to carry the ruck. The boy is tired and though good at ground level is not imposing himself in the air.

Author:	MIL [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:18 pm ]
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Missed the game, but from what I've gleaned: Pros JR.......take another bow. Has now officially exited the "bottom six" and "scapegoat" lists. JG.......the livewire we've needed to help out Eddie. If Yaz can come on, geez we're looking dangerous. Murph......37 possies in another All-Aust performance. All class Regulation 50+ win (even though Dees were Uber-tanking) Con Hads. With him, Waite and Jammo out, surely we can't do anything in the finals ?

Author:	Juzzy [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:45 pm ]
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Pros: Garlett Walker Getting the win, when was the last time the Blues have won 3/5 by 50+ points? Cons: Hadley's arm, shame he'd been good for the side. Maybe try Walker in the circle?

Author:	kezza [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:30 pm ]
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Pros Garlett Fev Win Cons Boring Defence

Author:	GodisNavyBlue [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:21 pm ]
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Pro Carlton won Essendon* lost Con Brisbane won Sydney lost

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