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Author:  simonverbeek [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:10 am ]
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Where will we finish?

Who will we play?

When will it be?


I can't believe there hasn't been a thread started on this yet.

Warning - I'm doing this very quickly and there will be mistakes in the calculations

So the equation is:

We win 2 and Dogs lose 2 - 4th
We win 2 and Dogs win 1 - 5th
We win 1 and lose 1 - Adel and Dogs will be above us (dogs have good %) so we'll be either 6th if Bris win 1 or 7th if Bris win 2.
Lose 2 - ain't gonna happen

Who will we play?

4th - Stk
5th - Port or Ess
6th - Bris home
7th - Bris away

When will we play (assuming Geel vs. Coll is a lock for Sat night MCG and Stk is a lock for MCG Sunday arvo) Saturday arvo cannot be MCG game as Geel Coll will be there at night.

4th - Sunday arvo MCG
5th - Fri night MCG or Sat Etihad
6th - Fri night or Sat
7th - Fri night away in Bris

Does anyone know if Etihad are guaranteed a final?



Let the speculation begin!

Please correct any errors in my logic - important for that weekend's planning!

Author:  buzzaaaah [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:11 am ]
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If there is 3 Melbourne finals then there will be an Etihad game.
That'll be us if we host an interstate team you'd think. If we play Essendon* then St K/Bulldogs will be Etihad

Author:  Teen Spirit [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:15 pm ]
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i'd take a home final at etihad. . . We play well there. . From memory the only game we've lost there is the saints game am i right?

Author:  BlueBern [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:49 pm ]
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The "We win 2 and Dogs win 1 - 5th " could see us finishing 4th.

We need Geelong to give the Doggies a real pasting tomorrow night, and then we need to double that pasting on Melbourne. 10% is a big gap to make up, but it's possible.

Author:  Bambi Russell [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:26 pm ]
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BlueBern wrote:
The "We win 2 and Dogs win 1 - 5th " could see us finishing 4th.

We need Geelong to give the Doggies a real pasting tomorrow night, and then we need to double that pasting on Melbourne. 10% is a big gap to make up, but it's possible.


I think it will have to be Collingwood that gives the Dogs a belting not the Cats. If the Dogs are going to win one of their last two I think that they will win this week.

Author:  JK [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:02 pm ]
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i dont..
geelong have some good ins this week.. i expect them to really want to make a point before finals

Author:  Effes [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:06 pm ]
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Steve Johnson out of the team with an ongoing hip injury, Chapman back into the team.

Author:  budzy [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:10 pm ]
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There's something not quite right at the cattery... :sly:

Author:  Juddy&theKruezers [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:22 pm ]
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The Hawks have Richmond and Essendon* to come...win both and then they are in if the scum lose to Freo....is that right?

Author:  grrofunger [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:23 pm ]
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pretty much

Author:  Humpers [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:47 pm ]
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The Western Bulldogs will beat Collingwood in Round 22.
Unfortunately the Pies will have a top 4 position sewn up and won't over exert themselves.....their minds will be on the following week.

Author:  Ads [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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If we win our final 2 and Bulldogs happen to beat one of either Pies or Cats, we can still finish 4th.

Looking at the ladder now the Bulldogs have a +400 points difference (For - Agst) and we are +230 points. So basically we have to make up a 170 point gap.

We really need to knock off Melbourne by 75+ and hope the Bulldogs lose to Geelong (or Collingwoood) by 60+. Then we'd need to make up about 5 goals in Round 22. It's definitely possible but it is going to be extremely tough. Doubt it will happen, our only 'real' hope is for Dogs to lose both.

Author:  Ads [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:52 pm ]
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Humpers wrote:
The Western Bulldogs will beat Collingwood in Round 22.
Unfortunately the Pies will have a top 4 position sewn up and won't over exert themselves.....their minds will be on the following week.


Not necesarily...

If Dogs win this week, then Pies and Dogs will be playing off for 3rd spot the following week. And who do you think hte Pies would rather play in the first final, St Kilda or Geelong ;)

Author:  Siegfried [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:42 pm ]
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budzy wrote:
There's something not quite right at the cattery... :sly:


Have been saying for 5 weeks...Geelong has Carlton 1996 and Essendon* 2001 written all over it.

Dominated the competition for 2 years, winning 1 flag, dominated the first half of the 3rd year, fell away the second half of the third year, unable to keep up the intensity, overcome injury etc.

As much as I hate to say it, the Saints better win the flag, cause if they don't, (shudder) Collingwood might.

Author:  Juddy&theKruezers [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:47 pm ]
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Siegfried wrote:
budzy wrote:
There's something not quite right at the cattery... :sly:


Have been saying for 5 weeks...Geelong has Carlton 1996 and Essendon* 2001 written all over it.

Dominated the competition for 2 years, winning 1 flag, dominated the first half of the 3rd year, fell away the second half of the third year, unable to keep up the intensity, overcome injury etc.

As much as I hate to say it, the Saints better win the flag, cause if they don't, (shudder) Collingwood might.


Don't write off the Cats just yet...they will be a different team once September begins...

Author:  Wet Willie [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:12 pm ]
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If we can finish 4th and then probably lose to St Kilda in the first week - we change groups and the finals race REALLY falls in our favour...

...so much so, I really start to get ahead of ourselves

We would then miss Geelong and Essendon*, and play Bulldogs and Collingwood to get to the GF...

THE LID'S OFF!!!

Author:  MIL [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:19 pm ]
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So its Bummers v Baggers probably. We only need a 70 point turnaround :garthp:

Author:  grrofunger [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:29 pm ]
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beat melbourne by 100 and adelaide by 60

and dogs lose by 20 to collingwood

we jump to 4th

lol

it aint over yet

:lol:

Author:  Donstuie [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:35 pm ]
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The name-a-game dvd for the crows game will be called...

Image

No way will we be able to pump them as we need to.

Author:  Juddy&theKruezers [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:39 pm ]
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Lets worry about Melb first...I say we go all out attack for 4 qtrs and lets see what happens. The most important thing now is a home final.

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