A touchy subject for some

I would pick Selwood simply because he is harder at the contest
all other areas they are equal
Is it too early to call on whether we made a mistake in not picking Selwood
No
Gibbs will never be a tough player
Sat night we saw all of Gibbsy
Brilliant first half
Good thirdquarter
We saw the shaky breaky moves
the vision
the sublime skills
but
was Gibbs on the ground at all in the last quarter when the heat finally arrived in the game
I know Selwood would have stamped his authority on the game.

Thats the worry with Gibbs
he isnt tough enough
A neat footballer
Nothing to do with being young
Selwood was in the same draft

Ironically the guy we have missed this year is Bentick.
We have too many outside mids

Friday night is Gibbsys big test
He needs to impose himself on this game and take is game to the Selwood level.

How do you know Selwood would've stamped his authority on the game in Carlton's team?

I think both players are outstanding. Completely different types of players though.

I see Selwood more like a Ratten, although Ratts had better skills by foot on both sides.

Gibbs like Buckley, give him time and space and he'll cut you to pieces.

Gibbs also does alot of grunt work when required, only physically he doesn't attack the contest as insanely as Selwood.

Both have great leadership qualities.

Gibbs is more versatile.

Selwood has more mature bodies supporting him.

Either way at least DP/WH realised who the two best were in that draft so we couldn't fail.

Don't see them as being similar players at all.

Selwood is one of the toughest players at a contest I've ever seen for his age, and Gibbs has possibly the best vision and reading of the play I've ever seen in a player of his age. For mine, we can teach Gibbs to be tough at the footy, but geelong can never teach Selwood to have the vision and ability to read the play of Gibbs (it is an innate ability).

As for Gibbs' last quarter on Saturday night... it looked to me like he was moved out of the guts (probably because he'd played there the first three quarters). So I think to claim he went missing is misleading. Just my take anyway.

just remember the players around you make a big impression on how you perform. could you imagine gibbs in the geelong midfield. also I believe gibbs is a good year younger than selwood....

Dont under estimate Selwoods vision and reading of the play

im a massive fan of Gibbs but i have to say that atm Selwood is better.

Selwood is stronger, harder and more influential. he stands out in a team that is full of stars, sometime even outshines Ablett which is an achievement in itself.

Gibbs and has great football brain but will he ever be the player that will turn a game in our favour. Does he have that x factor that Selwood has? To me Gibbs is a great ball winner (like Robert Harvey), can weave around tackles (like Robert Harvey), and can set up plays (like Robert Harvey) and will probably win a browlow or 2 (like Robert Harvey) but i at this point I would stil pick selwood.

Not underestimated at all keogh. It is just nowhere near the level of Gibbs and never will be. That's not to say Gibbs will be a better player, just saying he has an intuitive grasp of the game that Selwood will never have.

I'm a one Gibbs man... and always will be

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Youv'e just got to swap them around.

Put Selwood in the Carlton team of 2007 and Gibbs in the Geelong team of 2007.

Gibbs came to Carlton with hig expectations surrounding him, he was put in the backline tagging players along the likes of Cornes, Goodes etc. Something he wasnt very familiar with, he also had an occasional run in a very poor midfield with absoloutley no help nor protection.

Selwood landed in the Geelong team of 2007, he arrived with little expectation as he was just coming off a knee reco. He played in a midfield alongside arguarbly the greatest player 2007 Gary Ablett Jnr, the best player of 2007 Jimmy Bartel, the rugged and battle hardened Joel Corey, plus protection from Corey Enright and Paul Chapman, not to mention Geelong were the best team of 2007, with no getting within a coo-eee of them to match them for talent.

Who do you reckon is going develop faster?

You be the judge?

For the record, when we were talking about maybe getting picks 1 and 2 in the draft (when we contested the 4.5 wins the year before), I was saying we should pick Gibbs AND Selwood.

Go back to the posts

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So if Selwood's knee condition means he retires at 27, and Gibbs plays five more seasons than him, does that alter anyone's perceptions?

Because I'm pretty sure the issue with Selwood's knee was around his potential longevity in the game, not on whether he'd be able to play at all.

Anyway, Selwood's a freak, whereas Gibbs is merely extraordinarily good. I'm happy.

Gibbs is a freak too

I can't split em

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I was always a Selwood fan and actually wanted him over Gibbs, but TOTALLY understood the recruiters choice with Gibbs. It was always gonna be a risk taking Selwood and there were rumours that the kids knee might be so bad that he may have never even played.


Now, as big a fan of Selwood as i was (and still am), i love Gibbs. Very happy with him thank you very much!

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..footy is still very much a hard, tough game.. ..and of the two, there's no doubt as to who is harder and tougher.. ..also note, that the blues need that tough, hard inside mid.. ..as it currently stands, Selwood is better.. ..and better by a fair margin in my opinion.. ..out of their draft, Gibbs is securely second, and given the concerns/doubts surrounding Selwood's knee at the time of drafting pretty much every team would have chosen Gibbs first, so i don't think it's a case of us erring.. ..with the number 1 pick, you just can't afford to take a chance.. ..let's not forget, that another five teams after us also overlooked Selwood..

.. ..also, from what i remember (which isn't always correct),, there was more concern about Selwood's knee, vs say Judd's shoulders which saw him picked up at 3.. ..Selwood came on and had not just instant impact, but has been consistent as well.. ..Gibb's being bottom aged, and having a freak like Selwood in the same draft isn't helping.. ..best to compare Gibbs to the rest of his draft, cos Selwood's just one out of the box..

.. ..Selwood's to midfielders, as Krooz is to Ruck/KPP's.. ..both are coming on far faster than even the most optimistic could have hoped for....and it's a little unfair to judge others by their trail-blazing starts..

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Well said.

Still too early, but they are different.

I loved what I saw of Gibbs on Saturday, especially when he got his hands on the contested ball.

IMO, every time I've seen Gibbs in the guts competing for the contested ball, he's really shown his class...it's amazing what he does. Perhaps some are missing what he really does. He's a beauty.

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..he's good in traffic, no doubt.. ..but he's not the pack busting type mid..

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Selwood walked into an awesome midfield

Gibbs walked in to form an awesome midfield

Geelong is in that insanely good bracket while Carlton's is just awesome

Selwood hasn't missed many games and Geelong has won countless games. Right now I think Selwood has it over Gibbs in effectiveness and even importance, but on it's own merits and in a non-comparison outlook Gibbs will be extremely valuable to this team and that's all that matters.

The most ridiculous thing in all this is how Essendon* (who lacked genuine talent in the midfield), North (perfect for their style of play) and Hawthorn (the supposed list managers of the decade) could get it so wrong and bypass Selwood. Thank heavens he didn't end up at Collingwood (Ben Reid), who had traded down and had the next pick.

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You know 25 good disposals can go unnoticed while Selwood busting through the pack and being hard at the contest 5 times will have people drooling.

I would compare Gibbs to Pendlebury with Gibbs being better in close and better vision for the long kick. Selwood and Gibbs are chalk and cheese I reckon.

Also I agree with the comments about Selwood going to the Cats because Gibbs didn't have the freedom to just slot in and take the game by the scruff, he, with some of our other young guys had the weight of an entire club on thier backs and he seemed to negotiate his way through it with thought and consideration going into everything he did.....and he'll keep improving too.

I'd like both of them but I prefer Gibbs by a country mile because he is exactly the type of player I like the most.

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IMO Selwood is twice the player Gibbs is but it's very early days yet.
Gibbs has more scope for improvement and better physical attributes. I'm more than comfortable with our decision.

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