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Walker %
Russell % because so many have to go stays for another year. Dury out. Has no awareness around him. Wont improve in this area
Murphy% Wont be the greatest number one draft pick. Will be a good solid player
Gibbs% great awareness. needs to do the hard things more shocking overhead. Wont be the star many think he will be or already is unless he improves in these areas
Judd% Will end up a cripple unless he gets more helP
Simpson% Most underrated player at the club. A gun
Bentick% Same as Russell. Saved from the hangmans noose because We have too many shit players. We have missed his inside work
Kreuzer% will be the best of the 3 number one picks
Johnson# rather have Chatfield back
Hadley# never buy from the Salvos if you want quality and its faulty
Warnock% unproven but hope he doesnt end up like a dud I think he might. Has shown very little in his career so far for all the hype. Size isnt everything at least thats what Marilyn Chambers once said.
Robinson% Will be a good player for us
Yarran% so soft unbelievable. Give him 3 years. If he shows nothing trade him while he is worth something
Fisher# Can mark and do nothing else. Gone
Browne% good solid player Shouldnt have been dropped
Grigg% potentially a very good mid but needs to become harder as well. Some very soft efforts Friday night
OHailpin% my favourite player. Tough A psycho(every team needs one) Can play forward or back
Bower% Gun awesome attitude. Good defender already.Kicking needs improvement otherwise love him in defence
Betts% Gun Great hands 34 goals from 17 games for a midget. no more needs to be said
O'Keefe% too early has been injured stilll would have like more output
Austin% good size good pace like him Has a future
Hampson% definitely a work in progress but upside is still promising. Has added something to the ruck
Hartlett# gone too slow and shit overhead
Stevens# Yep You know my feelings about this guy
Fevola% Yep a superstar when the globe gets switched on The club havent been hard enough on him
Anderson% keep. Good pace size Has a future
Armfield% But not worth a 2 year deal. Poor kicking and decision making
Cloke# I dont care how many goals he kicks in the VFL not good enough
Scotland# He aint the future. Has been good value though
Waite% we miss him
Bannister# Gone
Thornton% He is good body on body
Houlihan# Dont like him as a footballer Aint the future.
Wiggins# Hasnt achieved enough over 100 games
Tiller% too early to call but its a worry he cant dominant in VFL seconds games
Pfeiffer% disposal poor but love his attack on the footy.
Edwards # Has achieved little from what he possesses. Had enough chances
Gartlett% he is better than Yarran
Jacobs% good backup ruckman
Jamison % Excellent fullback
Hill % promote on the hunch he might have something special. Is the quickest player at the club. Pace is gold
Stanton% keep for another year
Carrazzo% Keep Needs to play on the ball more Ratts
Joseph% find of the season. Will make a top midfielder. Should be used there now
Ellard% promote. Has footy smarts
Bentley# Not good enough

Thats 11 guys that should be cut from our senior list
Joseph, Jacobs, Hill, Gartlett, Ellard promoted

We will probably play finals this year because 11 win will probably get you in.
Still have heaps of deadwood.
Get rid of them place faith in the promoted rookies and get som new talent.

Needs to be done.

Keogh - #.

What's a dury?

Sorry I cant be delisted from TC

How can you tell who is what under Ratts coaching??

I hear Setanta is a walk up start when hes fit... but it was only last year Ratts wanted to get rid of him as he got rid of his brother........ even though in my opinion Aisake was more smooth than Setanta....

Right now Bentick can play 50 possie games and he wont get in... his papers are stamped never to play again...
Hartlett is a defender / ruckman...
Edwards is not playing in the forward line... hes a defender... yes we know we have 10 tall to reasonable tall defenders...... and that we need forwards....

I doubt Ratts would have made a forward out of Collingwoods Anthony...

Who was a defender but because Collingwood needed forwards developed him into what they need not what they have an over abundance of...

Ratts to me doesnt manage his squad like gold .... he is like a boy in a sweet shop... tries the licorice once doesnt like it and puts it down... loves the teeth and the rasberry lollies so doesnt have to try the licorice again...

He wastes lists....

He has no clue on how to get the most out of the players...

Getting rid of players is horrible at the best of times... but when you have a coach who doesnt know what he is doing and hasnt allowed them to realise their potential first is a crime...

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Just imagine how awesome our depth will be with all those guys gawn

So you reckon thos guys are good do you

have a look at them
There duds or washed up guys who arnt the future
We are better off without them.

Ian, I think

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isnt that the point though???

that we have so many players on our list some people want gone... because they havent come along...
they havent progressed...
they havent developed....

now is that the recruiters ..
the players....
or what we do with players when they come to the club???

just have a think about that... those of you who believe that things are going just swell.....

We are not professional...
We should be more like the Crows and less like Carlton 1980....

Those years are over..... new ones begin every year now....

Were looking to the past stil....

and thats all i hear from supporters...

"This guy is shit..". ""that guy is shit..."". why do we still hang on to this one"... "if i ever see that guy put on a navy blue jumper again ill tear my membership"...


now why is that???

why dont our kids who are our investment into the next decade come along like other kids???

our kids are gold.. they should be developed as footballers and people....


We need the best people going around to have the best kids going around to have the best team going around...

We dont need a bunch of old boys running the club....!!!

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a blockhead with polio...

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i agree Synbad but i still reckon The players need to take some responsibility for their lack of development.
IMO we have a lot of downhill skiers at the club.
Houlihan and Stevens are the worst offenders.
I have wanted them delisted for many years personally.
Scotland has been reasonable for the club
They have to go these 3. They arnt the future.
As for the downhill skiers bit last Friday night was the perfect example.
Many of our players are mentally weak.

You know, when I first saw this thread I thought Keogh was announcing he'd had a bit of man-scaping done

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Players are an ATM machine
Coaches can collect if they have the pin number.
Which coaches can collect on their players depends on how they go finding the pin numbers....

Ours keeps getting his card confiscated by the machine.....older players... gun forwrds... kids...

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Gotta agree....imagine getting rid of a bunch of players who Ratts thought were crap only to have Ratts disposed of not long after....

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Pagan wanted to withdraw $100s and $50s from Lance but he only had a couple $20s in him ...like a few players now

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There's so much I could say...

expired...

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