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Author: | keogh [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Sacked and backed |
%= backed #= sacked Walker % Russell % because so many have to go stays for another year. Dury out. Has no awareness around him. Wont improve in this area Murphy% Wont be the greatest number one draft pick. Will be a good solid player Gibbs% great awareness. needs to do the hard things more shocking overhead. Wont be the star many think he will be or already is ![]() Judd% Will end up a cripple unless he gets more helP Simpson% Most underrated player at the club. A gun Bentick% Same as Russell. Saved from the hangmans noose because We have too many shit players. We have missed his inside work Kreuzer% will be the best of the 3 number one picks Johnson# rather have Chatfield back Hadley# never buy from the Salvos if you want quality and its faulty Warnock% unproven but hope he doesnt end up like a dud I think he might. Has shown very little in his career so far for all the hype. Size isnt everything at least thats what Marilyn Chambers once said. Robinson% Will be a good player for us Yarran% so soft unbelievable. Give him 3 years. If he shows nothing trade him while he is worth something Fisher# Can mark and do nothing else. Gone Browne% good solid player Shouldnt have been dropped Grigg% potentially a very good mid but needs to become harder as well. Some very soft efforts Friday night OHailpin% my favourite player. Tough A psycho(every team needs one) Can play forward or back Bower% Gun awesome attitude. Good defender already.Kicking needs improvement otherwise love him in defence Betts% Gun Great hands 34 goals from 17 games for a midget. no more needs to be said O'Keefe% too early has been injured stilll would have like more output Austin% good size good pace like him Has a future Hampson% definitely a work in progress but upside is still promising. Has added something to the ruck Hartlett# gone too slow and shit overhead Stevens# Yep You know my feelings about this guy Fevola% Yep a superstar when the globe gets switched on The club havent been hard enough on him Anderson% keep. Good pace size Has a future Armfield% But not worth a 2 year deal. Poor kicking and decision making Cloke# I dont care how many goals he kicks in the VFL not good enough Scotland# He aint the future. Has been good value though Waite% we miss him Bannister# Gone Thornton% He is good body on body Houlihan# Dont like him as a footballer Aint the future. Wiggins# Hasnt achieved enough over 100 games Tiller% too early to call but its a worry he cant dominant in VFL seconds games Pfeiffer% disposal poor but love his attack on the footy. Edwards # Has achieved little from what he possesses. Had enough chances Gartlett% he is better than Yarran Jacobs% good backup ruckman Jamison % Excellent fullback Hill % promote on the hunch he might have something special. Is the quickest player at the club. Pace is gold Stanton% keep for another year Carrazzo% Keep Needs to play on the ball more Ratts Joseph% find of the season. Will make a top midfielder. Should be used there now Ellard% promote. Has footy smarts Bentley# Not good enough Thats 11 guys that should be cut from our senior list Joseph, Jacobs, Hill, Gartlett, Ellard promoted We will probably play finals this year because 11 win will probably get you in. Still have heaps of deadwood. Get rid of them place faith in the promoted rookies and get som new talent. Needs to be done. |
Author: | Kouta [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
keogh wrote: Yarran% so soft unbelievable. Give him 3 years. If he shows nothing trade him while he is worth something gartlett% he is better than Yarran Anderson% keep. Good pace size Has a future Ellard% promote. Has footy smarts Joseph, Jacobs, Hill, Gartlett, Ellard promoted Keogh - #. |
Author: | Gilly34 [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
What's a dury? ![]() |
Author: | keogh [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Kouta wrote: keogh wrote: Yarran% so soft unbelievable. Give him 3 years. If he shows nothing trade him while he is worth something gartlett% he is better than Yarran Anderson% keep. Good pace size Has a future Ellard% promote. Has footy smarts Joseph, Jacobs, Hill, Gartlett, Ellard promoted Keogh - #. Sorry I cant be delisted from TC ![]() |
Author: | Synbad [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
How can you tell who is what under Ratts coaching?? I hear Setanta is a walk up start when hes fit... but it was only last year Ratts wanted to get rid of him as he got rid of his brother........ even though in my opinion Aisake was more smooth than Setanta.... Right now Bentick can play 50 possie games and he wont get in... his papers are stamped never to play again... Hartlett is a defender / ruckman... Edwards is not playing in the forward line... hes a defender... yes we know we have 10 tall to reasonable tall defenders...... and that we need forwards.... I doubt Ratts would have made a forward out of Collingwoods Anthony... Who was a defender but because Collingwood needed forwards developed him into what they need not what they have an over abundance of... Ratts to me doesnt manage his squad like gold .... he is like a boy in a sweet shop... tries the licorice once doesnt like it and puts it down... loves the teeth and the rasberry lollies so doesnt have to try the licorice again... He wastes lists.... He has no clue on how to get the most out of the players... Getting rid of players is horrible at the best of times... but when you have a coach who doesnt know what he is doing and hasnt allowed them to realise their potential first is a crime... |
Author: | Pklz [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Just imagine how awesome our depth will be with all those guys gawn ![]() |
Author: | keogh [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Pklz wrote: Just imagine how awesome our depth will be with all those guys gawn ![]() So you reckon thos guys are good do you have a look at them There duds or washed up guys who arnt the future We are better off without them. |
Author: | Megaman [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Gilly34 wrote: What's a dury? ![]() Ian, I think |
Author: | Synbad [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Pklz wrote: Just imagine how awesome our depth will be with all those guys gawn ![]() isnt that the point though??? that we have so many players on our list some people want gone... because they havent come along... they havent progressed... they havent developed.... now is that the recruiters .. the players.... or what we do with players when they come to the club??? just have a think about that... those of you who believe that things are going just swell..... We are not professional... We should be more like the Crows and less like Carlton 1980.... Those years are over..... new ones begin every year now.... Were looking to the past stil.... and thats all i hear from supporters... "This guy is shit..". ""that guy is shit..."". why do we still hang on to this one"... "if i ever see that guy put on a navy blue jumper again ill tear my membership"... now why is that??? why dont our kids who are our investment into the next decade come along like other kids??? our kids are gold.. they should be developed as footballers and people.... We need the best people going around to have the best kids going around to have the best team going around... We dont need a bunch of old boys running the club....!!! |
Author: | Synbad [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Gilly34 wrote: What's a dury? ![]() a blockhead with polio... |
Author: | keogh [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Synbad wrote: Pklz wrote: Just imagine how awesome our depth will be with all those guys gawn ![]() isnt that the point though??? that we have so many players on our list some people want gone... because they havent come along... they havent progressed... they havent developed.... now is that the recruiters .. the players.... or what we do with players when they come to the club??? just have a think about that... those of you who believe that things are going just swell..... We are not professional... We should be more like the Crows and less like Carlton 1980.... Those years are over..... new ones begin every year now.... Were looking to the past stil.... and thats all i hear from supporters... "This guy is shit..". ""that guy is shit..."". why do we still hang on to this one"... "if i ever see that guy put on a navy blue jumper again ill tear my membership"... now why is that??? why dont our kids who are our investment into the next decade come along like other kids??? our kids are gold.. they should be developed as footballers and people.... We need the best people going around to have the best kids going around to have the best team going around... We dont need a bunch of old boys running the club....!!! i agree Synbad but i still reckon The players need to take some responsibility for their lack of development. IMO we have a lot of downhill skiers at the club. Houlihan and Stevens are the worst offenders. I have wanted them delisted for many years personally. Scotland has been reasonable for the club They have to go these 3. They arnt the future. As for the downhill skiers bit last Friday night was the perfect example. Many of our players are mentally weak. |
Author: | Megaman [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
You know, when I first saw this thread I thought Keogh was announcing he'd had a bit of man-scaping done |
Author: | Synbad [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
keogh wrote: Synbad wrote: Pklz wrote: Just imagine how awesome our depth will be with all those guys gawn ![]() isnt that the point though??? that we have so many players on our list some people want gone... because they havent come along... they havent progressed... they havent developed.... now is that the recruiters .. the players.... or what we do with players when they come to the club??? just have a think about that... those of you who believe that things are going just swell..... We are not professional... We should be more like the Crows and less like Carlton 1980.... Those years are over..... new ones begin every year now.... Were looking to the past stil.... and thats all i hear from supporters... "This guy is shit..". ""that guy is shit..."". why do we still hang on to this one"... "if i ever see that guy put on a navy blue jumper again ill tear my membership"... now why is that??? why dont our kids who are our investment into the next decade come along like other kids??? our kids are gold.. they should be developed as footballers and people.... We need the best people going around to have the best kids going around to have the best team going around... We dont need a bunch of old boys running the club....!!! i agree Synbad but i still reckon The players need to take some responsibility for their lack of development. IMO we have a lot of downhill skiers at the club. Houlihan and Stevens are the worst offenders. I have wanted them delisted for many years personally. Scotland has been reasonable for the club They have to go these 3. They arnt the future. As for the downhill skiers bit last Friday night was the perfect example. Many of our players are mentally weak. Players are an ATM machine Coaches can collect if they have the pin number. Which coaches can collect on their players depends on how they go finding the pin numbers.... Ours keeps getting his card confiscated by the machine.....older players... gun forwrds... kids... |
Author: | Juddy&theKruezers [ Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Synbad wrote: How can you tell who is what under Ratts coaching?? I hear Setanta is a walk up start when hes fit... but it was only last year Ratts wanted to get rid of him as he got rid of his brother........ even though in my opinion Aisake was more smooth than Setanta.... Right now Bentick can play 50 possie games and he wont get in... his papers are stamped never to play again... Hartlett is a defender / ruckman... Edwards is not playing in the forward line... hes a defender... yes we know we have 10 tall to reasonable tall defenders...... and that we need forwards.... I doubt Ratts would have made a forward out of Collingwoods Anthony... Who was a defender but because Collingwood needed forwards developed him into what they need not what they have an over abundance of... Ratts to me doesnt manage his squad like gold .... he is like a boy in a sweet shop... tries the licorice once doesnt like it and puts it down... loves the teeth and the rasberry lollies so doesnt have to try the licorice again... He wastes lists.... He has no clue on how to get the most out of the players... Getting rid of players is horrible at the best of times... but when you have a coach who doesnt know what he is doing and hasnt allowed them to realise their potential first is a crime... Gotta agree....imagine getting rid of a bunch of players who Ratts thought were crap only to have Ratts disposed of not long after.... ![]() |
Author: | budzy [ Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Synbad wrote: keogh wrote: i agree Synbad but i still reckon The players need to take some responsibility for their lack of development. IMO we have a lot of downhill skiers at the club. Houlihan and Stevens are the worst offenders. I have wanted them delisted for many years personally. Scotland has been reasonable for the club They have to go these 3. They arnt the future. As for the downhill skiers bit last Friday night was the perfect example. Many of our players are mentally weak. Players are an ATM machine Coaches can collect if they have the pin number. Which coaches can collect on their players depends on how they go finding the pin numbers.... Ours keeps getting his card confiscated by the machine.....older players... gun forwrds... kids... Pagan wanted to withdraw $100s and $50s from Lance but he only had a couple $20s in him ...like a few players now ![]() |
Author: | murraycray [ Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Sacked and backed |
Synbad wrote: Gilly34 wrote: What's a dury? ![]() a blockhead with polio... expired... |
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