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Author: | camel [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | R16: Pros & Cons |
Pros Krooooooooozer! His second efforts are fantastic. Able to change the terms on which the game was played. We ran and ran and ran. Didn't take out feet off the pedal, 10 goal win is fantastic way to exorcise some demons. 15 goals to 3 in the second half, including 9 in the last quarter. T-bird and Bower really put their bodies on the line when were under the pump. Couple of flashes of brilliance from Yarran. Cons Rubbish 2nd quarter. Murph and Gibbs need to get better when we are playing poor football. They're great when we're winning but often missing when we're not. |
Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
For emphasis on how big it was I'm only listing one pro. Yarran's goal. ![]() |
Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Agree with Camel. But add to that: PRO: The lift in the 2nd half. Different routes to goal than Fev who was well (read illegally) held. Con: We play too reactionary at times, and let the opposition dictate the terms too often. That will cost us big time against the better teams. |
Author: | aramari [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | PROS and CONS round 16 |
Pros 15 goals to 2 after half time some of the lesser lights: Anderson - very good with a couple of blemishes Yarran - not a big game, but competed ok, and what he did was sweet Bentley - was competitive - gave us something when needed in the 3rd Hampson - delicious - might have a dominant ruckman here Houlihan was good in close and outside Cons First half Hartlett Scotland Grigg all struggled through the game |
Author: | Donstuie [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pro: The 2nd half Con: The 1st half |
Author: | Nicko Carstairs [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pros Judd and Kade Simpson ![]() Kruez - looked great today No Nick Stevens required. Rubbed the swans noses in it. Goaless last quarter 3 in a row. Anderson and Bentley did their jobs Carazzo surely cant be passed over this week for NRS Cons 1st half had some real replays in my mind of the previous game in Sydney Goodes killed us and thankgod Gibbs was switched off him - wasnt working - regconised and much better 2nd half |
Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pro: The defence stood up really well under some pressure towards the end of the last, but didn't blot their copybook. A goalless last quarter by the Swans, and only 3 in the 2nd half is impressive. |
Author: | Ump [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pro: We smashed them |
Author: | tigerbr17 [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
pro:houlihan 16 a GREAT contested possessions with judd on 17 |
Author: | Kouta [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pros We beat a bottom team like we should have after a shaky first half. Cons Joe and Isaac ringing up 3AW and potting Houlihan, Anderson, Bentley and a few others. They'll take my rubbish away tomorrow. |
Author: | Donstuie [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Kaptain Kouta wrote: Pro: The defence stood up really well under some pressure towards the end of the last, but didn't blot their copybook. A goalless last quarter by the Swans, and only 3 in the 2nd half is impressive. 2 of those in the last @#$%&! minute of the 3rd ![]() |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Kouta wrote: They'll take my rubbish away tomorrow. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Con: Finished my celebration beer before the match finished. Pro: I have plenty of others to open ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Blue4life [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
PRO: broke 2 hoodoos... hadnt beaten the swans since 2000 and havnt won 3 in a row since 2004 Saints next? |
Author: | Nicko Carstairs [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
tigerbr17 wrote: pro:houlihan 16 a GREAT contested possessions with judd on 17 Pro He actually applied defensive pressure and did some great work in the last quarter ![]() |
Author: | club29 [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pro FIghting back when it looked like their experience was going to get the better of us Fev- Great team game and kicked five. Nice leads up the wing in a CHF type role. Murphy and Gibbs fighting back after shocking first halfs. The momentum gained for next week Thorntons adaptability Got some game time into Yaz and Anderson Kroozer will carry our club for years to come Johnson Bentley Russell all have good games Fev cleaning up a Swan and making it clear to anyone who dares get in his way that they will get hurt. Cons Unclean early under extreme pressure Not a good game from hartlett at either end Scotland looked off the pace Goal from the ballup at the end of the third. Third man up would have been nice. |
Author: | Sydney Blue [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pro Hammer starting to hit to advantage Hoops brilliant today Simpson is our barometer when he steps up we win Fev was good Great purple patch from fish ( should have kicked 4 ) Krooze is killing them Ratts simply out coached the Sydney brains trust after half time- he got his match up right and it was game over We beat them by 61 and all the Essendon* lovers here they could only beat them by 35 ![]() Cons Murphy 3 turnovers in the the first what the hell was that We need another forward target We struggle against tall forwards |
Author: | 17th Premiership [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Was listening online from Fiji! Pros really REALLY happy that we kept going hard until the end! great comeback & turnaround from everyone, including the coach who I not happy with at half time! gibbs lifted himself & sounded like this helped trigger the revival (amongst others) sounds like houlihan may have got a good scare from stevens/scotland being dropped judd, fev, gibbs, simpson, carazzo, kreuz, anderson, yarran, fisher, houla... even sounded like bentley was ok. my wife did as she was told and did not move from the lounge after we kicked the first couple in the final quarter! Cons still concerned with strategies in first half - sounded (again) like we had a congested forward line while opposition's forward line was open (this has been a feature in several games that we have lost this season). we need to improve this to improve long term - this should not be dependant on having our best team on the park. hartlett - time to sign his papers. rex hunt's TERRIBLE call - he kept getting names wrong, not knowing several at all, i had no idea where the ball was much of the time and he leaps over passages of play ("gibbs takes the ball and goodes kicks it..."). |
Author: | Dodo27 [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Pros: 1- Houlihan: Played his best Game of the year... Was back to his old Silky Skills and hitting Fev with amazing accuracy....Also for the very first time, he put his body on the line and got some contested positions. 2- Yarran : Showed bits and pieces of some magic. his Goal in the last Quarter was electric. Something Gartlet would not be able to do if compared. 3- Kruz : Great Game.... 4- Fisher: was OK... Kicked 3 goals in a Row in 10 min and was lively all day. He did not get exposed too much at ground level because the Sydney Defenders were too heavy themselves. 5- Bentley : Was OK. put his body on the line and held up the play at many Stopages. Probably saved himself for another week Cons: 1- Hartlett: Looked out of sorts and Must be Dropped next week. 2- Russell : Quite game with only 12 touches. Needed to do more 3- Joseph: Surely, he needs a rest... He only managed two touches in the entire game. He is Spent... Stevens or Walker needs to come in for him next week. 4- Costly turnovers and a couple of silly mistakes by experienced players, especially Murphy who was very rusty in the 1st half. |
Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R16: Pros & Cons |
Dodo27 wrote: 2- Russell : Quite game with only 12 touches. Needed to do more While I agree that he was quiet, I thought his touches and disposals were very good. Especially in the first half when the usual suspects were well below their best. CON: Murphy and Gibbs had a really slow start. They'll need to iron that out of their game against the better teams. |
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