This ought to settle this debate once and for all .

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STURDYISM!!

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

What was that for mikkey? I'm just trying to introduce a bit of levity and counteract the circular arguments going on in this forum.

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STURDYISM!!

Hmmm..........

where's the...."tommi" option............?

cos fair dinkum.............it just HAS to have something
to do with me.........!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Yeah Tommi, better call a presser to explain yourself.

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

UteGate

Where's the "Godwin Grech" option?

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

looki'mnotresettingthispollagain...

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STURDYISM!!

Jason.

Global Warming..... I mean Climate Change.

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The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Tommi's got a lot to answer for. Reckon he'll front up?

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stupid question. Its not one individuals fault. Many people to blame here.

Previous boards doings have set the club back. The current regime with this trying to buy back the old Carlton swagger with Pratts money hasn't helped the current list creating this 'look at us' and 'its going to happen' culture.

Melvey I think you have just created next years slogan

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

You're wrong melvey - it IS one person's fault - it's Russell's fault.

You know it, I know it, we all know it.

End of story.

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end of message

Who recruited Russell?

BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!

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Its funny how we single out players and not those who selected him, develop him or coach him.

I'd bet if both Russell and Hartts played at Port or the Crows that be fine players.......... not saying much about our club

When you don't like a player Melvin, it's the coach's fault that we recruited him.

When you do like a player Melvin and everyone hates the player, it's the coach's fault that he didn't develop or coach him well.

What a conundrum.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Get with the program, coaches don't recruit players.