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Author:  anthopides [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Heath Scotland
Heath Scotland has been Carlton's best defender over the last three years Kerhahan&Ratten dropped him.They have no idea did anyone see his miralculous smother and recovery in the first half agaist Essendon*.Are we playing for draft picks again?
Anthopidies
Author:  aramari [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
anthopides wrote:
Heath Scotland has been Carlton's best defender over the last three years Kerhahan&Ratten dropped him.They have no idea did anyone see his miralculous smother and recovery in the first half agaist Essendon*.Are we playing for draft picks again?
Anthopidies


There was nothng wrong with Scotland's game in the first half at least, from my vantage point on the couch. After half time i wasn't in analytical mode shall we say.

Can anyone here explain what Scotty did to deserve being dropped?
Author:  billc3 [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:20 pm ]
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Perhaps making a statement is more important (and he's injured and needs a break???)
I'm guessing there was a "see how you feel after the break" ...and he wasx sore after the game so a "rest" is warranted?

Just a guess???
Author:  Synbad [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Abit knee jerk with Scotto ...he has been ok... considering his pre season..

.. but if you lose playing kids you can always wheel out the old "you expect kids to be up and down.. theyre just kids... we had x amount of players who have plaeyed less than x amount of games"

Stevo i agree with.... poor... pathetic.. disgraceful... and just not AFL grade atm.

Houla looks injured cant run cant kick... he seems to have abit of OP i reckon...
Author:  aramari [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Scotland has played some quiet games this year and a couple of poor ones, but he was one of our few decent players last week - he's been better than I expected after his pre-season. He's been a bloody solid player for a while now and I reckon he's copping a raw deal. Was he not doing the "team things" or something?
Author:  Kaptain Kouta [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
aramari wrote:
Was he not doing the "team things" or something?


That would be my thought.

JR got retained to the chagrin of many for a long time, because he did what was asked of him week after week. Scotto mustn't have done what was asked and required of him by the MC/Coach.

That's probably the long and short of it.
Author:  The Normal One [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:48 pm ]
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Not sure why we don't play Scotland on the ball more in spurts.
Author:  badbuzz [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Scotland missed out on preseason, due to his hip operation. Elite Performance schedule seems to have him playing two or three games on the trot, and reduce his workload in the two's. He may be on a modified program to ensure he can bridge the gap by the end of the year, whilst keeping him in tune for the first's.

Go Blues!!!
Author:  Synbad [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
aramari wrote:
Was he not doing the "team things" or something?


That would be my thought.

JR got retained to the chagrin of many for a long time, because he did what was asked of him week after week. Scotto mustn't have done what was asked and required of him by the MC/Coach.

That's probably the long and short of it.

So why was he dropped?

Cos supporters demanded it???

Look noone knows why Russell wasnt drropped.. nobody know what his role was... nobody knows how he broke back into thje team without playing well in the ressies... nobody knows why russell is not asked to do anything different to whatever hes done in the last 40 games to develop...
nobody knows why a fast guy at trials like russell is not asked to play a more running style ....

noone knows....

i bet ratts doesnt even know....

i know they think "he has the build the athleticism and the tools to make it when it clicks".... thats what a horses mouth told me last year...

We play Russell in the hope he will turn the corner... cos "he has the build.. the speed... and the tools for modern daay footballer"
Author:  aramari [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
If he was being rested as part of his program I'm sure the club would respect him enough to mention it to the media.
Author:  jimmae [ Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Synbad wrote:
nobody knows how he broke back into thje team without playing well in the ressies...

I've been through this a dozen times over the last few months: at the moment there are not many names before Russell's. Until a couple of kids develop and a couple of other players come back from injury, he'll be amongst a group of five names that will be bandied about at the selection table.

When we've made five changes, it's not hard for him to get a guernsey.
Author:  Melvey [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:29 am ]
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A bit tough on Scotto.

He missed the preseason due to poor management by Ratts.

He is the only bloke in our team to be knocked out cold running blindsided into a marking contest.

Missed his brothers wedding to play for us in round 3 and was dropped the very next week after a not so bad game.
Author:  verbs [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
jimmae wrote:
Synbad wrote:
nobody knows how he broke back into thje team without playing well in the ressies...

I've been through this a dozen times over the last few months: at the moment there are not many names before Russell's. Until a couple of kids develop and a couple of other players come back from injury, he'll be amongst a group of five names that will be bandied about at the selection table.

When we've made five changes, it's not hard for him to get a guernsey.


Whilst the feral element will knock his every move, he was considered by the club to be second best for the Bullants last week, which is much more important than internet warrior's "opinions".
Author:  Blue Vain [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
As much as I'm not a huge JR fan, his 10 tackles last week tells us he put enormous pressure on the opposition when they had the ball. Something 22 Carlton players failed to do.
I'm happy for Ratts to drop some front runners and bring in some hard workers if it makes a statement to the group.

As for Scotland, no one here knows his true role last week. Did he follow instructions? Did he play the game the team expected of him? I would assume not.
As much as some see Ratten as the reason for all the worlds ills, he's not going to drop a good player and jeopardise our chances for laughs.

It's pretty funny actually. Some posters bag Ratten for having a boys club and not showing courage at selection. When he makes the hard calls and drops players, he gets criticised anyway. :lol:
Author:  Kaptain Kouta [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Melvey wrote:
He missed the preseason due to poor management by Ratts.


What? :screwy:
Author:  teagueyubeauty [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Blue Vain wrote:
It's pretty funny actually. Some posters bag Ratten for having a boys club and not showing courage at selection. When he makes the hard calls and drops players Pagan would have never considering for demotion, he gets criticised anyway. :lol:

Not true, Pagan was on radio last week sometime (could have been earlier this week :? ) and he was answering panelists questions about what he'd do with underperforming senior players and he said that he'd tried to drop Fev, Stevens, Whitnall et al on some occasions but was overruled.

Seems the players don't like being told the truth on one hand and yet on the other take the piss with Ratts softly softly approach.

If Ratts is fair dinkum then the senior players dropped need at least 2 weeks in the magoos and never to return unless they are killing it as they should at that level. I look forward to the bullants reports for the next couple of weeks even more than usual.
Author:  Blue Vain [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:44 am ]
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
Not true, Pagan was on radio last week sometime (could have been earlier this week :? ) and he was answering panelists questions about what he'd do with underperforming senior players and he said that he'd tried to drop Fev, Stevens, Whitnall et al on some occasions but was overruled.


Hmmm, so you're saying Pagan allowed the administration to select the team?
Well, it's good to see that Ratts makes the hard decisions and isn't influenced by Sticks and the rest of the administration.
Some posters are claiming Ratts cant make the hard decisions. It's good to see those claims dispelled. :thumbsup:
Author:  woof [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
Blue Vain wrote:
It's pretty funny actually. Some posters bag Ratten for having a boys club and not showing courage at selection. When he makes the hard calls and drops players, he gets criticised anyway. :lol:


Scotland and Stevens might be thinking that Fev was as bad if not worse than them. Why didn't he get whacked?
Author:  Sydney Blue [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heath Scotland
woof wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
It's pretty funny actually. Some posters bag Ratten for having a boys club and not showing courage at selection. When he makes the hard calls and drops players, he gets criticised anyway. :lol:


Scotland and Stevens might be thinking that Fev was as bad if not worse than us. Why didn't he get whacked?



I reckon Scotland and Stevens would but justified in thinking so

Backed the wrong horse here if you ask me

Fev was the man who should have sat this one out- bigger statement than Stevens and Scotland
Author:  The Duke [ Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:48 am ]
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Agree.

I'm now officially worried about the coach and MC. Once again they're being too smart for themselves. They're trying to make a statement but it's obvious where their loyalties lie.

If I were Scotto in particular, I'd be punching lockers on my way out. If it's about attitude - his is miles ahead of Fev's. If it's about ability - he's millions of miles ahead of Russell/Armfield.
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