Ryan Houlihan shows his skills in a clinic with the students of Wahgunyah Primary School. Pictures: MATTHEW SMITHWICK
My goodness, how Houla has changed since Friday night.
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| Author: | budzy [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Houla wants a contract extension.. |
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/local ... 42980.aspx Quote: “I definitely feel like I’ve got a few good years ahead of me. “Hopefully I can keep on playing until after I’m 30.” Should he get an extension? Also nice to see the boys up at Wahgunyah Primary in Nthn Vic. spreading the love.. |
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| Author: | DownUnderChick [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
Ryan Houlihan shows his skills in a clinic with the students of Wahgunyah Primary School. Pictures: MATTHEW SMITHWICK My goodness, how Houla has changed since Friday night.
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| Author: | Big Kahuna Boot [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
..yeah, easily deserves a contract extension.. ..our list is still a fair way off us being able to knock back players of his standard.. ..if yer reckon he's not good enough a player, fair enough [though i disagree], but either way our list isn't good enough yet to offload players like him.. |
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| Author: | Outback Blue [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, give him a contract extension will be a good asset for the Northern Bullants !!!!! |
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| Author: | marciblue [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
absolutely! and with his non-collision style of game he should have a few years service left and a very fresh body! |
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| Author: | BluesRockMyWorld [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
I'm not sure comments like "he belongs in the Bullants" or "collision style" are really relevant comments, and seem to be a thinly veiled swipe at a player, which IMO is unnecessary. Anyway to the topic at hand... Houla has never been or never will be a "hard nut" in the style of a Glen Archer etc. Thats not to say he has not improved his defensive skills. During the first few games the stats show he had a solid returns in tackles, hard ball gets etc. He has been given some KPIs from the coach in realtion to those things, and as we saw, suffered demotion when he did not meet those. Houla is also another one who IMO has been the victim of being played out of position too regularly. Houla has and always will be a forward of centre player. There is no point in playing him in the backline, HBF or anywhere near that area. Its forward or bust AFAIC. Now as to his future - he deserves a contract extension assuming he consistently applies the things he has improved on this season eg: tackling pressure etc. It would be nice also if he got a bit more return of the scoreboard, but that should come assuming he is played to his strength in the forward line and he does not have to perform to many negating roles like he did against St Kilda. So in a nutshell I think he does have a place in our best 22, skills like his don't grow on trees. |
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| Author: | woof [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
No rush. He can wait till the end of the year just like Setanta. |
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| Author: | Virgin Blue [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
As long as he is not being paid a lot He is not worth big bucks |
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| Author: | Outback Blue [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
BluesRockMyWorld wrote: I'm not sure comments like "he belongs in the Bullants" or "collision style" are really relevant comments, and seem to be a thinly veiled swipe at a player, which IMO is unnecessary. Whats all this about ??? Is this what TC has become ??? I sure hope not !!! besides I am just saying, I dont believe Houla will be good enough to make it in the senior side, but would be good Value in the Bullants. What is so wrong with that ?????? |
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| Author: | BluesRockMyWorld [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
Outback Blue wrote: BluesRockMyWorld wrote: I'm not sure comments like "he belongs in the Bullants" or "collision style" are really relevant comments, and seem to be a thinly veiled swipe at a player, which IMO is unnecessary. Whats all this about ??? Is this what TC has become ??? I sure hope not !!! besides I am just saying, I dont believe Houla will be good enough to make it in the senior side, but would be good Value in the Bullants. What is so wrong with that ?????? OB perhaps I read more into your post than I should of - so I apologise. But I don't agree that Houla is not good enough to make it in the senior side, after all he is and has been playing seniors most of this season, which would suggest he is in fact good enough. |
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| Author: | woof [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
Outback Blue wrote: besides I am just saying, I dont believe Houla will be good enough to make it in the senior side, but would be good Value in the Bullants. What is so wrong with that ?????? You should have just said it like that in the first place. |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
Good to see the balanced view points coming to the fore. Worth another two seasons after this one observing his entire season's performance. Worth one on current form. I think we can safely review it at the end of the season. |
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| Author: | budzy [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
BluesRockMyWorld wrote: ...He has been given some KPIs from the coach in realtion to those things, and as we saw, suffered demotion when he did not meet those... I also saw a post by his biggest fan over on BF stating that he was suspended/ommitted at that time for missing a team curfew. Either way, not a good selling point for a 27yo who's looking for a new contract and has very talented young players competing for a forward spot. I think a lot of posters pretend he is something a lot more special than what he actually is. Average - slow paced, good value at times but lacks consistency in intensity,..unreliable, IMO. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him moved on ... and I wouldn't go crook if he was re-contracted on a low base contract for depth purposes. |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
I think his pace is actually starting to come back. That lead in the fourth was blindingly quick. |
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| Author: | Big Kahuna Boot [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
jimmae wrote: I think his pace is actually starting to come back. That lead in the fourth was blindingly quick. ..would he be on schedule regarding his 'comeback' from the big hip-ops last year..?.. ..i'd imagine the sort of work he had done would take a while to fully recover from.. |
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| Author: | phoenix johnson [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
One of our more skillful players at the club. Fev always says if he could have one person kicking the ball to him every game, it'd be Houlihan. Big wrap for him given we have the likes of Judd, Gibbs etc in the side who are good users of the ball by foot. |
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| Author: | Bluey44 [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
budzy wrote: BluesRockMyWorld wrote: ...He has been given some KPIs from the coach in realtion to those things, and as we saw, suffered demotion when he did not meet those... I also saw a post by his biggest fan over on BF stating that he was suspended/ommitted at that time for missing a team curfew. Either way, not a good selling point for a 27yo who's looking for a new contract and has very talented young players competing for a forward spot. I think a lot of posters pretend he is something a lot more special than what he actually is. Average - slow paced, good value at times but lacks consistency in intensity,..unreliable, IMO. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him moved on ... and I wouldn't go crook if he was re-contracted on a low base contract for depth purposes. I agree. His good qualities would excuse his inconsistency if he was younger or more raw. However he is very experienced as a footballer, and doesn't deliver good performances often enough. Happy to keep him for depth, but would not sacrifice too much of the salary cap for him. Good servant to the club but has been given plenty of leeway in the past |
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| Author: | aramari [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
Definitely worth another year with a club exercisable option for a second. There's no hurry though, I'd expect the decision will be made towards the end of the year. We're not overwhelmed with young quality forwards of any description. |
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| Author: | The Normal One [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
Definately not worth delisting. If something good was on the table come trade week then I'd consider, otherwise a 2 year deal for me as there won't be much better available over the next 2-3 years. |
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| Author: | TheBluesMuse [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Houla wants a contract extension.. |
aramari wrote: We're not overwhelmed with young quality forwards of any description. True that. |
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