Tony Elshaugh came from Carlton
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| Author: | aramari [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ross Lyon re Assistants |
Ross Lyon "On the Couch" - very impressive and thoughtful man - respected the forum enough to research and think about his answers. One of the better guests they've had. A mature intelligent and level-headed coach. One point he made which resonated: Mike asked him whether getting Leigh Tudor from the Cats to join as an assistant was to get intelligence on Geelong. Lyon frankly admitted they specifically targeted someone from Geelong. "if you're going to go and get people, get them from the best systems and the best clubs....it's a sign that we're a good club that we can land them" We don't have any coaches that have coached at successful AFL teams other than Darren Harris (was forward coach for the Eagles) but he's the development coach, and apparently not involved in strategy or gameday. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:55 pm ] |
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flower the assistants we went and got the best player |
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| Author: | Deano Supremo [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:57 pm ] |
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Cloke? |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:58 pm ] |
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chris johnson |
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| Author: | bosman [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:58 pm ] |
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grrofunger wrote: flower the assistants we went and got the best player and the best CEO..... (Pratt didn't want to go after Cook from Geelong as he sells too many boxes to Frank Costa) |
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| Author: | aramari [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ross Lyon re Assistants |
Judd Swann Icke - fantastic? YES And coaches?????? I guess Pratt "left the footy up to Sticks" as he said. |
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:07 pm ] |
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aramari wrote: Judd Swann Icke - fantastic? YES And coaches?????? I guess Pratt "left the footy up to Sticks" as he said. They can't coach, but boy, can they drink. |
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| Author: | woof [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:12 pm ] |
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Tony Elshaugh came from Carlton
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| Author: | cecil89 [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:13 pm ] |
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I'll just add that i was very impressed by the way Ross handled the interview. Gave some very insighful answers. And when you compare it to the crap that Mick Malthouse dished up on the same show a few weeks ago, it shows why Mick could be out of a job next year. |
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| Author: | aramari [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:25 pm ] |
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woof wrote: Tony Elshaugh came from Carlton So did Ross Lyon
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| Author: | MPH78 [ Mon May 18, 2009 10:42 pm ] |
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Just posted in the Saints thread as I didn't see this one. Agree that he was very impressive tonight. Definately one of the best interviews on that show for a long time. |
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| Author: | 17th Premiership [ Mon May 18, 2009 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ross Lyon re Assistants |
swan judd (Brownlow, Premiership, Norm Smith, B&Fs, Best PLayer in the league!) icke ratten (Premiership, B&Fs) bradley (2 premierships, 34 All Australian) williams (2 brownlows, premiership) montgomery (Premiership) sticks (2 premierships, margarey medal*, 29 B&Fs) justin cordy robert harvey (2 brownlows, B&Fs) that is a pretty high performance mob all just as successful as anyone from geelong. yes, lyon is impressive. but until this year, plenty of people were questioning his abilities and his strategies. and, it was not that long ago that bomber thompson was being publicly questioned. ratten also sounds reasonably impressive when interviewed. people are questioning him (including me regarding strategy into the forward line). but he is learning all the time. let's not jump at shadows. |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Tue May 19, 2009 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ross Lyon re Assistants |
...and for what it's worth, Robert Walls was largely responsible for the appointment of Lyon to St.Kilda...and it took them some time to acclimatize to him as coach...even this time last year, many Saints supporters were calling for his head when it looked as though their Jeldwen window of opportunity had closed. As for Lyon's assistants in Silvagni and Elshaugh - not convinced TE does too much, but Silvagni has proven he's no fluke as a defensive coach. As for our assistants, i'd consider Riley (mids), Bradley (part-time) and Montgomery (backs) pretty darn good and Lappin and Harvey merely there for work experience and not in the long term plans of the club. |
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| Author: | House [ Tue May 19, 2009 9:05 am ] |
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote: ... As for Lyon's assistants in Silvagni and Elshaugh - not convinced TE does too much, but Silvagni has proven he's no fluke as a defensive coach. I didn't hear it 100% correctly, but when he was commenting on how he and Elshaugh had clashed over the setups on the weekend -and he finished with "in the end, we left the matchup far too long and gave him too many possessions" - I had flashbacks to our previous seasons -with the difference being that the Saints have enough player skill at the moment to withstand such a mistake..... |
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| Author: | Siegfried [ Tue May 19, 2009 10:53 am ] |
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I also thought that was really interesting aramari. Hawthorn did the same thing with Damian Hardwick. They deliberately targeted him because he was a Premiership assistant at Port Adelaide. I'm not close enough to the Club to know how the assistants are preforming, other than to say that the team is improving, and they seem to be trying to implement systems that I think are generally good. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to get an assistant in from Geelong or Hawthorn or (can you believe I am suggesting this??) St Kilda (come home SOS??) to get first hand knowledge of the systems that are currently dominating football. |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Tue May 19, 2009 11:26 am ] |
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Great interview. I thought that their use of the Pratt strategy (get the best and the best are in a job) was a great idea and it has paid dividends. It was great to see Tudor's added value by presenting Geelong's view identifying St Kilda's forwardline as clunky. That would have been an eye opener as the St Kilida MC are looking from the inside. Basically he wanted off field staff from a successful SYSTEM to share the secrets of what works. I'm sure that's what we are trying to achieve, and expediting the performance of our system is what we must achieve...right now. Maybe we've got a great system, and the kids just need a bit more time and another preseason like the Cats, Hawks and Saints have over us. |
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| Author: | woof [ Tue May 19, 2009 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ross Lyon re Assistants |
bondiblue wrote: I thought that their use of the Pratt strategy (get the best and the best are in a job) was a great idea and it has paid dividends. If they were using the Pratt strategy they should have Justin Cordy and we should have kept our cast off Peter Mulkearns. |
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| Author: | cj69 [ Tue May 19, 2009 3:51 pm ] |
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bondiblue wrote: I thought that their use of the Pratt strategy (get the best and the best are in a job) was a great idea and it has paid dividends. I get confused by what comes out of PP sometimes. We go and get Swann, Icke, Cordy etc the we appoint Ratten, Harvey, Bradley, Teague, Lappin & Riley? Maybe getting the best person doesn't apply to the Coaching Department? Just shows a little bit of inconsistency and mediocrity. The club psychologist is only part time as well!! |
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| Author: | KoRn [ Tue May 19, 2009 4:38 pm ] |
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we need a recruiting manager with a good record of recruiting good players that helped to rebuild the whole team into a premiership club. |
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| Author: | Steve_C7 [ Tue May 19, 2009 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ross Lyon re Assistants |
Dr.SHERRIN wrote: As for Lyon's assistants in Silvagni and Elshaugh - not convinced TE does too much, but Silvagni has proven he's no fluke as a defensive coach. It has been said from various people and Lyon confirmed it on the couch that SOS is one of the, if not THE best one on one defensive coach out there. His ability to teach individually and collectively how to defend has improved the Saints to become a genuine premiership contender, let's hope that he does get a little homesick and come back to the blues sometime soon. |
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