budzy wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I dont want to look to far ahead......
Is that you tbird?
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| Author: | budzy [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | R8: Collingwood v Carlton (pre-match discussion/teams p23) |
Sunday 17th May, 2.10pm, MCG. Well, we need more willing runners linking through the middle of the ground willing to have a crack. I'd bring in Robbo, Garlett and Browne. Simmo looks listless to me. Wiggo and Cloke are out of form along with one or 2 others. Maybe give Harts another chance. We just need to take the game on more through the corridor |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
I dont want to look to far ahead...... |
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| Author: | budzy [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Synbad wrote: I dont want to look to far ahead...... Is that you tbird? |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sun May 10, 2009 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
We need to bring in players that are going to bleed for this flowering jumper. You see Rance yesterday? Except for the big three I can't see anyone showing that sort of commitment in this team. Bring in Grigg, Robbo, Setanta. Send Wiggo, JR and Cloke to the ants. Houlihan should come back too, we need someone who can actually kick the ball. Stevo should count himself very lucky too btw and Thornton only stays because we need to shore up our back half. Austin showed last night that he can make it at this level, so give him a job down back and FFS keep Waite up forward. |
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| Author: | Melvey [ Sun May 10, 2009 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
It will be a good game. Both team play the same style of football. Slow ball movement and play along the wings |
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| Author: | club29 [ Sun May 10, 2009 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
I reckon its time to get a more mobile side in. We are too lumbery. Our forward defensive pressure has been bad. Bring in a couple of hard tackling hard running players to replace Cloke , Wig and maybe Hadley. Our back 6 should match up well against their forward line. Would have liked Grigg in but he will be underdone if his hammy is ok. We are better than them so should win. |
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| Author: | club29 [ Sun May 10, 2009 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Melvey wrote: It will be a good game. Both team play the same style of football. Slow ball movement and play along the wings The port fans i know all blame Williams for getting them to play the same way. Seems it comes up when a team loses. |
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| Author: | Blues Forever [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
We looked slow and cumbersome and the skills were disgraceful. Out - Cloke, Hampson, Armfield, Hadley (stevens very, very lucky). In - Robinson, Fisher, Grigg, O'hailpin |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Actually if we're going to be discussing Ins and Outs - then I reckon you'd be crazy to drop Hampson against Collingwood...and Grigg won't be ready for seniors next week guys. |
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| Author: | club29 [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Blues Forever wrote: We looked slow and cumbersome and the skills were disgraceful. Out - Cloke, Hampson, Armfield, Hadley (stevens very, very lucky). In - Robinson, Fisher, Grigg, O'hailpin Leave hampson and armfield and forget about Ohalphin and fisher. We need runners with dash. Out :- cloke hadley and Wig (maybe) In:- Robo, garlett and Houla (maybe) If grigg is ready play him but i doubt he will be. |
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| Author: | Melvey [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
club29 wrote: Blues Forever wrote: We looked slow and cumbersome and the skills were disgraceful. Out - Cloke, Hampson, Armfield, Hadley (stevens very, very lucky). In - Robinson, Fisher, Grigg, O'hailpin Leave hampson and armfield and forget about Ohalphin and fisher. We need runners with dash. Out :- cloke hadley and Wig (maybe) In:- Robo, garlett and Houla (maybe) If grigg is ready play him but i doubt he will be. HOULA?????? We need to move forward not backwards. |
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| Author: | ThisIsWhoWeAre [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
i wanna see yarran play next week. i think he will do well on the big stage. he done well last nite |
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| Author: | aramari [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
budzy wrote: Synbad wrote: I dont want to look to far ahead...... Is that you tbird?
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| Author: | club29 [ Sun May 10, 2009 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Melvey wrote: club29 wrote: Blues Forever wrote: We looked slow and cumbersome and the skills were disgraceful. Out - Cloke, Hampson, Armfield, Hadley (stevens very, very lucky). In - Robinson, Fisher, Grigg, O'hailpin Leave hampson and armfield and forget about Ohalphin and fisher. We need runners with dash. Out :- cloke hadley and Wig (maybe) In:- Robo, garlett and Houla (maybe) If grigg is ready play him but i doubt he will be. HOULA?????? We need to move forward not backwards. I am not looking at the names really. More the mix of the type of players i think we need. I reckon we are a bit heavy and lumbery at the moment. I want those guys to come in and play up forward and lay 5 tackles each. Stem the flow of the ball coming out so we can get numbers behind the ball and set up. Should also be able to jag some goals from the pressure like round 1 and 2. I just want to beat this mob. Like Synbad says we have the players we just need to get the mix right and get the structures right. |
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| Author: | Kouta [ Sun May 10, 2009 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Promoting Houlihan would send the wrong message to the playing group. Get dropped and be promoted after coasting in the VFL. We need some mongrel. Robinson and Browne for Wiggins and another player I can't be bothered naming... Our structure breaks down because we have no decent options besides Fevola. |
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| Author: | kezza [ Sun May 10, 2009 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
This is a must win game. To make the 8 we need to win 9 of our last 15 games, and with 4 games still be played interstate and St Kilda and Geelong to come we have to win every other Melbourne game. Look ahead to our next 5 games, Collingwood, Adelaide (away), WC, Brisbane (away) and St Kilda, there is every possibility we may only win one of these and be sitting at 4-8. Collingwood will be hell bent on revenge for last years 2 losses to us and I only hope they have a really tough match Monday night. Changes are needed- Cloke out for Fisher (at least he has a crack). Robinson to come in for Wiggins, and Grigg if he is fit. |
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| Author: | number 10 is cursed [ Sun May 10, 2009 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Hopefully we can take advantage of having 2 extra days to prepare than what Collingwood will have. God knows we need them! Cloke has to go. Irish back in for him. Hammer needs more game time...should be able to break even with Fraser/Bryan in the ruck. Krooz to do more of the leading up from half forward. I'd drop Stevens to send the message loud and clear to the group. Give Browney a go...I think he is one who lifts his game at the higher level. We match up well and rise to the occasion against the Pies. I think we will be 4-4 next weekend and then have to sort out our travelling routine to win at AAMI. |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Sun May 10, 2009 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
If Bannister is fit and not suspended by the VFL tribunal, I'd pick him and tell him his role is to block for Judd and Murphy at every clearance and smash their opponants every chance he gets. I'd also instruct Stevens, Scotland, Gibbs and Simpson that any time he has the ball they're to be running past for the handball receive so we don't need to worry about his kicking, thats not what he's in the team for. If Bannister isn't fit or is suspended I'd move down the queue to the next player capable of blocking and hurting the opposition and at the end of the season I'd trade for a couple of players that are capable of that and have decent disposal. We have to start looking after Murph and Judd. |
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| Author: | cj69 [ Sun May 10, 2009 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
Out: Stevens, Fevola, Cloke, Wiggins, Thornton In: Robinson, Garlett, Browne, Anderson, Bannister Line up: CARLTON B: Steven Browne, Paul Bower, Michael Jamison HB: Joe Anderson, Mark Austin, Bryce Gibbs C: Chris Judd, Richard Hadley, Dennis Armfield HF: Chris Yarran, Jarrad Waite, Mitch Robinson F: Jeff Garlett, Matthew Kreuzer, Eddie Betts Foll: Shaun Hampson, Marc Murphy, Aaron Joseph Int: Jordan Russell Heath Scotland Jordan Bannister Kade Simpson Emerg: Shaun Grigg Adam Hartlett Greg Bentley A side for the 'future' with some genuine speed around the flanks, run and enthusiasm and less of the dead wood. PS Won't happen but I'd like to see it! 
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| Author: | Stefchook [ Sun May 10, 2009 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R8: Collingwood v Carlton (Pre-match discussion) |
TruBlueBrad wrote: If Bannister is fit and not suspended by the VFL tribunal, I'd pick him and tell him his role is to block for Judd and Murphy at every clearance and smash their opponants every chance he gets. I'd also instruct Stevens, Scotland, Gibbs and Simpson that any time he has the ball they're to be running past for the handball receive so we don't need to worry about his kicking, thats not what he's in the team for. If Bannister isn't fit or is suspended I'd move down the queue to the next player capable of blocking and hurting the opposition and at the end of the season I'd trade for a couple of players that are capable of that and have decent disposal. We have to start looking after Murph and Judd. I like this kind of thinking. A little bit of tactical initiative and playing to our strengths. At the moment, other clubs must be laughing at how easily we allow our strengths to be minimised and our weaknesses exploited. |
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