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Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!!

Carlton's tackling record reads 82 to 59 to 43 over the first three weeks.
Take a look at the stats for the last match. Four players that scored zero effective tackles were Chris Johnson, Son of Waite, Brett Thornton and Paul Bower. Thats two thirds of Carlton's defense!

http://www.afl.com.au/Results/tabid/114 ... ureid=5053
then click on 'Statistics' tab....

Interestingly, the much maligned 'outside' player Nick Stevens gathered 10 tackles, equal with Murphy, and second only to 'new boy', Mitch Robinson (12 tackles). Proves Robbo's special value to the Carlton team.

johntall wrote:

Can you break down those stats a bit better?

The four defenders you named actually combined for 5 tackles, and I'm fairly certain Bower, Waite and T-Bird had 35 marks or more between them. When you're chopping off that much forward supply, what are you supposed to be tackling?

Johnson was definitely a spectator but those three were sensational in their roles this week, but like the rest of the team didn't move the ball too well.

Stevens had just the one tackle. The whole midfield and forward divisions were down on their pressure.

jimmae wrote:

johntall wrote:

I think you might be referring to the game against Swans... this thread is about the first three games.
Anyhow the tackling issues still stands. No better stat (esp. tackles within forward line) shows a barometer of a team's commitment.

Outback Blue wrote:

Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!!

..we had a huge tackle count in rnd 1 vs the tuggers, and had a heap of the ball too..

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

Outback Blue wrote:

Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!!

..we had a huge tackle count in rnd 1 vs the tuggers, and had a heap of the ball too..

True,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,But you must admit,,,,,,,we only played this years wooden spooners though!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm..........

down in the Tackle department....................CAN'T be good........!

kindest regards tommi

Author:	johntall [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:52 pm ]
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Carlton's tackling record reads 82 to 59 to 43 over the first three weeks. Take a look at the stats for the last match. Four players that scored zero effective tackles were Chris Johnson, Son of Waite, Brett Thornton and Paul Bower. Thats two thirds of Carlton's defense! http://www.afl.com.au/Results/tabid/114 ... ureid=5053 then click on 'Statistics' tab.... Interestingly, the much maligned 'outside' player Nick Stevens gathered 10 tackles, equal with Murphy, and second only to 'new boy', Mitch Robinson (12 tackles). Proves Robbo's special value to the Carlton team.

Author:	tommi [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:01 pm ]
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Hmmm.......... down in the Tackle department....................CAN'T be good........! kindest regards tommi

Author:	SparkyBlue [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:27 pm ]
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Author:	Judd one son [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:46 pm ]
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Make use of the Melbourne Storm using our ground and train with them once a fornight and learn how to tackle..

Author:	Virgin Blue [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:57 pm ]
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We had 11 tackles to half time. Disgraceful really.

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Author:	Megaman [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:27 pm ]
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I think we trained with the Storm in Rd 1 & 2 but not round 3

Author:	KoRn [ Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:30 pm ]
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It's pretty simple isn't it? If we tackle we win, if we don't, we'd lose. Some of our midfielders and small players only made 1 tackle in the entire game (big tall players are excused) - stevens, murphy, grigg, armfield, russell, johnson, robinson, and houlihan, how the hell can anyone only made one tackle in the entire 2 hours? I don't get this, it's pathetic!!!

Author:	Outback Blue [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:41 am ]
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Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!!

Author:	Big Kahuna Boot [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:06 pm ]
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Outback Blue wrote: Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!! ..we had a huge tackle count in rnd 1 vs the tuggers, and had a heap of the ball too..

Author:	jimmae [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:27 pm ]
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johntall wrote: Carlton's tackling record reads 82 to 59 to 43 over the first three weeks. Take a look at the stats for the last match. Four players that scored zero effective tackles were Chris Johnson, Son of Waite, Brett Thornton and Paul Bower. Thats two thirds of Carlton's defense! http://www.afl.com.au/Results/tabid/114 ... ureid=5053 then click on 'Statistics' tab.... Interestingly, the much maligned 'outside' player Nick Stevens gathered 10 tackles, equal with Murphy, and second only to 'new boy', Mitch Robinson (12 tackles). Proves Robbo's special value to the Carlton team. Can you break down those stats a bit better? The four defenders you named actually combined for 5 tackles, and I'm fairly certain Bower, Waite and T-Bird had 35 marks or more between them. When you're chopping off that much forward supply, what are you supposed to be tackling? Johnson was definitely a spectator but those three were sensational in their roles this week, but like the rest of the team didn't move the ball too well. Stevens had just the one tackle. The whole midfield and forward divisions were down on their pressure.

Author:	johntall [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:33 pm ]
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jimmae wrote: johntall wrote: Carlton's tackling record reads 82 to 59 to 43 over the first three weeks. Take a look at the stats for the last match. Four players that scored zero effective tackles were Chris Johnson, Son of Waite, Brett Thornton and Paul Bower. Thats two thirds of Carlton's defense! http://www.afl.com.au/Results/tabid/114 ... ureid=5053 then click on 'Statistics' tab.... Interestingly, the much maligned 'outside' player Nick Stevens gathered 10 tackles, equal with Murphy, and second only to 'new boy', Mitch Robinson (12 tackles). Proves Robbo's special value to the Carlton team. Can you break down those stats a bit better? The four defenders you named actually combined for 5 tackles, and I'm fairly certain Bower, Waite and T-Bird had 35 marks or more between them. When you're chopping off that much forward supply, what are you supposed to be tackling? Johnson was definitely a spectator but those three were sensational in their roles this week, but like the rest of the team didn't move the ball too well. Stevens had just the one tackle. The whole midfield and forward divisions were down on their pressure. I think you might be referring to the game against Swans... this thread is about the first three games. Anyhow the tackling issues still stands. No better stat (esp. tackles within forward line) shows a barometer of a team's commitment.

Author:	jimmae [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:28 am ]
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johntall wrote: jimmae wrote: johntall wrote: Carlton's tackling record reads 82 to 59 to 43 over the first three weeks. Take a look at the stats for the last match. Four players that scored zero effective tackles were Chris Johnson, Son of Waite, Brett Thornton and Paul Bower. Thats two thirds of Carlton's defense! http://www.afl.com.au/Results/tabid/114 ... ureid=5053 then click on 'Statistics' tab.... Interestingly, the much maligned 'outside' player Nick Stevens gathered 10 tackles, equal with Murphy, and second only to 'new boy', Mitch Robinson (12 tackles). Proves Robbo's special value to the Carlton team. Can you break down those stats a bit better? The four defenders you named actually combined for 5 tackles, and I'm fairly certain Bower, Waite and T-Bird had 35 marks or more between them. When you're chopping off that much forward supply, what are you supposed to be tackling? Johnson was definitely a spectator but those three were sensational in their roles this week, but like the rest of the team didn't move the ball too well. Stevens had just the one tackle. The whole midfield and forward divisions were down on their pressure. I think you might be referring to the game against Swans... this thread is about the first three games. Anyhow the tackling issues still stands. No better stat (esp. tackles within forward line) shows a barometer of a team's commitment. Aha. Agreed - carry on

Author:	Outback Blue [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:05 am ]
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote: Outback Blue wrote: Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!! ..we had a huge tackle count in rnd 1 vs the tuggers, and had a heap of the ball too.. True,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,But you must admit,,,,,,,we only played this years wooden spooners though!!!!!!!!!!

Author:	johntall [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:22 am ]
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Outback Blue wrote: Big Kahuna Boot wrote: Outback Blue wrote: Maybe tackles are down because we have increased the time we have possession of the ball.......................................just a theory !!!!!!!! ..we had a huge tackle count in rnd 1 vs the tuggers, and had a heap of the ball too.. True,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,But you must admit,,,,,,,we only played this years wooden spooners though!!!!!!!!!! Effective tackling isn't just about 'stopping' the opposition. It also sends a positive message of intent. I was at the Hawks vs Blues game last year (round 22?) and Hawthorn monstered the young Blues bodies. Remember Pfieffer getting pantsed? The young Blues were so intimidated that they started to try and run around Hawks tacklers, instead of taking them on. Hawks won that match on the ground and in the mind.

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Author:	Sergeant.Blue [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:51 pm ]
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johntall wrote: Carlton's tackling record reads 82 to 59 to 43 over the first three weeks. Take a look at the stats for the last match. Four players that scored zero effective tackles were Chris Johnson, Son of Waite, Brett Thornton and Paul Bower. Thats two thirds of Carlton's defense! http://www.afl.com.au/Results/tabid/114 ... ureid=5053 then click on 'Statistics' tab.... Interestingly, the much maligned 'outside' player Nick Stevens gathered 10 tackles, equal with Murphy, and second only to 'new boy', Mitch Robinson (12 tackles). Proves Robbo's special value to the Carlton team. You'll find most games Thornton has a low tackle count. Mitch with 6 was good considering he barely had a sniff.

Author:	buggermeblue [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:51 pm ]
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tommi wrote: Hmmm.......... down in the Tackle department....................CAN'T be good........! kindest regards tommi I laughed........................!