Im probably not the best person to have an opinion on this, (as i havent really watched Deleidio with too much interest) but what does Deleidio have that Walker doesnt?? They both seem to have pretty similar athletic qualities, but footy wise i rekon Tex is a bit smarter, has a lot more agression, can take hangers, but arguably has an inferior kick. Yet for some reason Deleidio is hyped as the next Judd while poor old Walks is often mooted as trade bait. More so Walker has actually torn games apart which in my mildly educated opinion Deleidio has not.

Thoughts?

I don't recall Deledio missing nearly two full seasons yet.

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Exactly. Get Tex on the park and who knows. But impossible to compare a bloke who doesn't play much, and seems to be rebuilding his career from scratch every time he runs out.

GET BETTER TEX.

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I quite enjoy watching Deledio play footy. I'm not so sure I'll watch him on 'Australia's Greatest Athlete' when it comes on tele. The bloke is representing our code and is up against Andrew Symonds, Billy Slater, Lote Tuqiri, V8's Jamie Whincup, pole vaulter Steve Hooker, soccer's Joel Griffiths and ironman Ky Hurst.

The challenges include golf, cricket, basketball, shooting, rock climbing, 40-metre sprints, a mini ironman, soccer penalty shootouts, bench press and dune buggy racing. Billy Slater should win it easily....however I digress - Deledio probably has it in the footy smarts department...in fact if we're honest - Deledio is probably the better footballer - but I'm not convinced the comparison of these two is entirely necessary...Deledio is a poor man's Judd (that's a compliment) and arguably Richmond's most talented player - Walks will be very good in a very good side (what we're becoming) and if allowed to play on the wing every week will be a very damaging footballer. So it's Lids for me - but not by much...

lids does pretty well in that show - (some results were leaked)

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Delidio is a star!!

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Some of you really do overrate Walker.

Deledio is a genuine forward option, whereas Walker hasn't proven he can be reliable in this capacity (granted he has rarely been played in that position, but there's not much we can do about that and at the end of the day fact still remains Deledio can do it and Walker can't).

Deledio finds more of the ball than Walker. In 2008, avg possessions were ... Walker 19.7 vs Deledio 24.5. The latter had over 500 touches in 2008 (538), which is in the territory of very good players. Walker's best annual return is 391 in 2007. Granted Walker had an injury interrupted year in 2008, but I would argue the fact Deledio is more reliable (these days) in terms of getting on the park is another feather in his cap versus Walker.

Also, Deledio as far as I can gauge doesn't turn it over as much as Walker by foot. And I'd also argue that while Tex is an excellent runner, Deledio's turn of pace is better utilised in games. When I watch Richmond, I always see Deledio breaking the lines to good effect, whereas Walks does that less often and with less effect in my view.

Did somebody say Walker takes speccies? As far as I can see he drops them 9 times out of 10.

Look, Walker has had bad luck with injuries, and there's every chance IF he can get on the park in 2009 he might finally emerge a good player. But right now Deledio has stack more runs on the board, and them's the facts folks.

If I was rating the two players out of 100 right now, I would go...

Deledio 82
Walker 68

It's worth noting that Deledio has played 84 games versus Walker 81 games. So in terms of games experience they are on equal footing, and yet one is far more established than the other.

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shutup.

Good post.....I agree.

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You must be one of the people who overrates Walker.

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Well I disagree, I'd have them:

Deledio 81
Walker 69

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Same

Really like Tex, but isn't really a contest at this stage of his career. Deledio is a gun. Virgin blue is spot on.

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As far as an argument is concerned, you certainly put one up there VB, and made attempts to give your reason for your point of view.

Usually agree with you VB, but I have to say 'generalisations'; you're entitled to.

Doesn't make you right though.

I like Delidio, and believe he's got a bit of 'power play' in him, but I think whilst they both have similar athletic attributes, Walker on points for me because he has a greater engine, has similar pace to burn, but is tougher, stronger and can play tall and small because of his superior leap.

Whilst Walker has been asigned tagging roles, to a HB role, basically defensive apprenticeship served, he has never, ever been unleashed as much as Delidio has been thus far, becauseof our dire need for him to play an attacking defensive role.

I'd play Walker CHB before I play Delidio there.
I'd play Walker CHF before I play Delidio there
I'd play Walker at FF before I'd play Delidio there.

What I'm suggesting is that Walker has more strings to his bow...we have another decade infront of us to see him unleashed.

He looked OK to me in a HF role when he came back from injury last year.

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Deledio is the better of the two players, but the best team wins if Walker can stay on the park and be a contributing member of our best 22.

I'm more confident about Walker's ability to play a shut down role on players like Deledio whilst winning his own ball and kicking goals on them.

Gibbs will be freed up to play on the opposition's fourth or fifth best midfielder with Walker taking athletic mids such as Burgoyne and Deledio.

Individual talents mean nothing.

The Cats had more AA players than the Hawks, but choked.

Means sweet FA boss, the Hawkers have more x-factor match winners than the Cats and two of them were very quiet in the GF.

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while i'm one of walker's biggest fans, let's be realistic here. deledio is much better than walker.


while they are inseparable athletically and work ethic wise, deledio covers walker in all skills of football. the most important being deledio is a fantastic overhead mark who rarely eevr loses a one-on-one contest be it aerial or at ground level and obviously deledio is a much much better kick, both around the ground and at goal. i'm not one who criticises walker's kickign much it hnk it is seriously underrated but deledio is a level above him in this area. the biggest area in which walker falls down imo is his understanding of the game and decision making and while deledio is no star at this particular aspect, he has walker covered hands down. deledio knows where to go to get the footy and instinctively knows what to do with it.

one area i think walker covers deledio by mile is his aggression and hardness. deledio is a very courageous player but walker has that mongrel which i love and is a lot tougher and harder at the contest than deledio. i also think walker has a much better defensive side to his game and is a better team player while he also probably covers deledio in terms of his freakish ability to scoop the ball up while running at full pace.

in fairness to walker, injuries have prevented him from having the opportunities deledio has been blessed with. i know for sure that if walker could haev an injury-free run for 4-5 years, non-carlton supporters will no longer consider this argument a waste of time.

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What does this have to do with Walker being an integral part of the Carlton team and rated by the club (he's on the masthead on Carltonfc.com.au) ?

Our best 22 and list will bat deeper than Richmond's...The Tigers have Tambling.

I blame Pagan for stifling Walker's development by playing him in the backhalf or as a tagger when he was ready to be released on a wing.

In a futures market given no further injuries to either player I would be backing Walker to overtake Delidio within a couple of years.

Yes injuries have had a say in Walkers career. If he can somehow shrug them off he is going to be one of the elite.

Not just very good, but one of the very best.

If the body holds up.

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No it has nothing to do with it.....I was merely making the point and I also agree with your comments re: Walkers development under Pagan and our list over Bichmonds.

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