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| Author: | johntall [ Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Here's an off-season challenge.... Like a lot of supporters I have been watching the Blues (with great reward) since the 60's. The Carlton Team of the Century didn't make a lot of sense to me because I never witnessed 9 of the players listed. So here's a task... using the CTOTC as a basis, what would the best Carlton team witnessed since 1968? B: AVAILABLE Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: AVAILABLE AVAILABLE Bruce Doull C: Garry Crane Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: AVAILABLE AVAILABLE Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Serge Silvagni Adrian Gallagher Interchange: Robert Walls Mike Fitzpatrick Ken Hunter Trevor Keogh Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: AVAILABLE AVAILABLE AVAILABLE AVAILABLE Of the 'new' players I would immediately nominate Kouta, Judd and Fev. And of those who missed out from past years.... Sheldon, Dean, Swan McKay, David McKay, Harmes. I would certainly 'promote' Hunter and Walls off the interchange bench Not too sure about the value of Serge Silvagni in the team, considering the great ruck rovers of past. In other 10 years (for the 50th) it might be a different story (Gibbs? Kruezer?) What do you think? |
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| Author: | billy_bongo [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Kouta? Judd? |
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| Author: | aramari [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
here's some names to put in the mix, all good footballers: Crosswell, Splading, Hanna, Gleeson, Rhys-Jones, Naley, Ratten, Andrew Mckay, Sexton, F Brown, Camporeale, Maclure, J Buckley Bosustow, Whitnall, Murphy, Walker, Gibbs, Bower, Grigg, Yarran, Kruezer, Fev, Judd, Robinson - core of the 1990-2030 team. |
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| Author: | Dirko [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
F TBA, Warren Ralph, Lindsay Smith HF TBA,Stephen Kernahan (Capt), Laurence Angwin C TBA, Bryce Gibbs, TBA HB Heath Culpitt, Mark Austin, Andrew McKay (V/Capt) B Greg Kazuro, David Kernahan, TBA R John Nicholls (Coach), Syd Jackson, Brett Backwell Here ya go ! Waiting for a few more blokes though 
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| Author: | Blueboy_Dan [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
sjabc wrote: F TBA, Warren Ralph, Lindsay Smith HF TBA,Stephen Kernahan (Capt), Laurence Angwin C TBA, Bryce Gibbs, TBA HB Heath Culpitt, Mark Austin, Andrew McKay (V/Capt) B Greg Kazuro, David Kernahan, TBA R John Nicholls (Coach), Syd Jackson, Brett Backwell Here ya go ! Waiting for a few more blokes though Dont forget Mark Athorn and Tim Powell 
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| Author: | exsing [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
What??? No Ackland?  You guys have NO idea... 
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| Author: | johntall [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Here's my best team, until someone unearths another champion... B: Wayne Harmes Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Ken Hunter Michael Sexton Bruce Doull C: Anthony Koutoufides Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Peter Bosustow Brendan Fevola Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Chris Judd Adrian Gallagher Interchange: David McKay Mike Fitzpatrick Andrew McKay Ken Sheldon Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Peter Dean Robert Walls David Rhys-Jones Brent Crosswell Apologies to Syd Jackson, Harry Madden, Trevor Keogh, Gary Crane, Barry Armstrong, Jon Dorotich, David Glascott, Peter Francis |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
johntall wrote: Here's my best team, until someone unearths another champion... B: Wayne Harmes Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Ken Hunter Michael Sexton Bruce Doull C: Anthony Koutoufides Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Peter Bosustow Brendan Fevola Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Chris Judd Adrian Gallagher Interchange: David McKay Mike Fitzpatrick Andrew McKay Ken Sheldon Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Peter Dean Robert Walls David Rhys-Jones Brent Crosswell Apologies to Syd Jackson, Harry Madden, Trevor Keogh, Gary Crane, Barry Armstrong, Jon Dorotich, David Glascott, Peter Francis I think Brett Ratten is a bit unlucky. |
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| Author: | coryne [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
TruBlueBrad wrote: johntall wrote: Here's my best team, until someone unearths another champion... B: Wayne Harmes Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Ken Hunter Michael Sexton Bruce Doull C: Anthony Koutoufides Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Peter Bosustow Brendan Fevola Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Chris Judd Adrian Gallagher Interchange: David McKay Mike Fitzpatrick Andrew McKay Ken Sheldon Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Peter Dean Robert Walls David Rhys-Jones Brent Crosswell Apologies to Syd Jackson, Harry Madden, Trevor Keogh, Gary Crane, Barry Armstrong, Jon Dorotich, David Glascott, Peter Francis I think Brett Ratten is a bit unlucky. I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing ................ |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
I'd have him in place of Judd. One season doesn't qualify you for selection in our best team of the last 40 years. |
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| Author: | Stefchook [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
johntall wrote: Here's my best team, until someone unearths another champion... B: Wayne Harmes Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Ken Hunter Michael Sexton Bruce Doull C: Anthony Koutoufides Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Peter Bosustow Brendan Fevola Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Chris Judd Adrian Gallagher Interchange: David McKay Mike Fitzpatrick Andrew McKay Ken Sheldon Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Peter Dean Robert Walls David Rhys-Jones Brent Crosswell Apologies to Syd Jackson, Harry Madden, Trevor Keogh, Gary Crane, Barry Armstrong, Jon Dorotich, David Glascott, Peter Francis Good effort. Hard to fault. But I'd have Crosswell on ball, and Syd Jackson on the bench, and Gaggs and Sheldon out of the team. Crosswell would have to go close to being our best big game player, until the Dominator came along. As far as I'm concerned, Crosswell would have to be one of the first picked. Also, I know he didn't spend all that long at Carlton, but I'd be tempted to consider Perovic ahead of Sexton. |
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| Author: | johntall [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Very good suggestions.... Both played just under 100 games. Crosswell was a freak. Pity he didn't spend his whole career at Carlton. http://blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=Brent+Crosswell The Blues have never really had a dominant centre half back. Not like a Jackovich. But Perovic was strong and dependable. http://blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=Val+Perovic "'Jezza' was cleared to St Kilda as their new captain-coach, and Val Perovic arrived at Princes Park. It was one of the great trades of it's time" |
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| Author: | pj_canus [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
B: Andy McKay Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Kenny Hunter Peter McConville Bruce Doull C: Kouta Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Buzz Fev Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Ratts Adrian Gallagher Interchange: Mike Fitzpatrick David Rhys-Jones Wayne Harmes Chris Judd Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Madden, Peter Dean, Ken Sheldon |
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| Author: | coryne [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
pj_canus wrote: B: Andy McKay Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Kenny Hunter Peter McConville Bruce Doull C: Kouta Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Buzz Fev Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Ratts Adrian Gallagher Interchange: Mike Fitzpatrick David Rhys-Jones Wayne Harmes Chris Judd Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Madden, Peter Dean, Ken Sheldon No room for WIGGINS ??? ................................. |
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| Author: | Dirko [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Blueboy_Dan wrote: Dont forget Mark Athorn and Tim Powell What ! Those blokes played for Glenelg as well ? 
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| Author: | murraycray [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
pj_canus wrote: B: Andy McKay Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Kenny Hunter Peter McConville Bruce Doull C: Kouta Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Buzz Fev Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Ratts Adrian Gallagher Interchange: Mike Fitzpatrick David Rhys-Jones Wayne Harmes Chris Judd Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Madden, Peter Dean, Ken Sheldon Er, Jimmy Buckley anyone ???? 
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| Author: | benny77 [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Didn't see him play myself, but from what I've heard, Robert Walls would be a little stiff to miss out? |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Walls would walk into any Carlton team ever Hed walk into this modern day team and dominate just like he dominated the big games 40 yrs ago. Not many footballers can dominate n atter what era they might have played. Big Nick wouldnt have. Kenny Hunter would have struggled today. Even Williams may have struggled. Walls would shit it in, no matter when he played. For those that never saw him... think Riewoldt with shit in him... and didnt choke in the big games. (unlike riewoldt Judd is a walk up too. Probably in the best 5 players ever to wear the jumper. |
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| Author: | 1979 Norm Smith medal [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
johntall wrote: Here's my best team, until someone unearths another champion... B: Wayne Harmes Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Ken Hunter Michael Sexton Bruce Doull C: Anthony Koutoufides Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Johnston Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Peter Bosustow Brendan Fevola Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Chris Judd Adrian Gallagher Interchange: David McKay Mike Fitzpatrick Andrew McKay Ken Sheldon Coach: David Parkin Emergencies: Peter Dean Robert Walls David Rhys-Jones Brent Crosswell Apologies to Syd Jackson, Harry Madden, Trevor Keogh, Gary Crane, Barry Armstrong, Jon Dorotich, David Glascott, Peter Francis This is a pretty fair effort. I can't see any real faults with this except Chris Judd hasn't played enough games with us yet to make this team...but that is a minor quibble as he is about the best player I have seen. If I was to be slightly silly I would have had:- B: Wayne Harmes Stephen Silvagni Geoff Southby HB: Wayne Harmes Michael Sexton Bruce Doull C: Wayne Harmes Greg Williams Craig Bradley HF: Wayne Harmes Stephen Kernahan Alex Jesaulenko F: Wayne Harmes Brendan Fevola Rod Ashman Ruck: John Nicholls Wayne Harmes Adrian Gallagher Interchange: Wayne Harmes Mike Fitzpatrick Andrew McKay Ken Sheldon A Harmes on each line - i would have cloned him and had a Harmes on the back line, half back line, wing, half forward flank, forward pocket and as a rover...one extra on the bench just in case. |
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| Author: | ianh [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Best Carlton Team of the past 40 years |
Excluding Judd on the basis that we are looking at performance at Carlton and JUdd hasn't yet got the runs on the board (and if you want to include performances at other clubs then start thinking names like Peter McKenna, Peter Bedford, Greg Wells, Billy Barrott, David Clarke Snr ...) I'd go" Harmes Southby Silvagni Jnr Hunter Koutoufides Doull Bradley Williams Crane Johnston Walls Crosswell Kernahan Nicholls Keogh Madden Jesaulenko Ashman Bosustow Fitzpatrick Jackson D McKay Emerg Fevola Gallagher Perovic |
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