CARLTON'S past offenders have been threatened with humiliation if they return overweight or unfit to the first training session on Monday. The Blues were warned by coach Brett Ratten to keep in shape on their two-month holiday, with punishment awaiting those who fail.

Does anyone know who the groups of three are?

I hope Stevens and Betts arent in the same group, pity the other one.

Put Fev in there. I'm sure he'd let them know he'd murder them if he had to train with the Ants...

I understand the reason for a penalty for the whole group if one fails, but don't entirely agree with it. I would prefer a Steve Johnson type of penalty: caste out till they reach milestones the leadership group expects.

What a good idea. Obviously someone in the football department has been studying human behaviour.

I wonder if they'll create the groups to maximise the effect? For example, anyone thrown in with Judd would be under enormous pressure to come back in tip-top shape: imagine being the guy responsible for Juddy training with the bullants.

Judd & Stevo together?

Stevo with his seniority should be given the challenge of stepping up and being in charge of some kids...

Letting down two of your mates and facing the prospect of dragging them down with you would be more of a kick in the pants than simply facing relegation alone.

Would't mind seeing Eddie in the same group as Judd.

Big year for Eddie, really needs to step up. If he can become more consistent (and if rumour is to be true, he probably hasn't got himself into his best possible condition), would make a massive difference.

Think back to the first game against Essendon*...he was brilliant that night. 25ish possessions, lead up marking, making the play...that's what we need from him week-in-week-out.