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We are now No 1 in the Brownlow
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Author:  Mickstar [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  We are now No 1 in the Brownlow
Im not into individual awards or personal glory sorta stuff.Its flags that count for mine.That is the measure of success as far as im concerned.................BUT.................After the counting of votes for the 2008 Brownlow "The Carlton Football Club"heads the list for the total of most votes recorded in the Brownlow medal since its inception.

Carl. 4845
Ess. 4841
Geel 4708
Coll 4701
Haw 4618
NM 4438
Dogs 4423
St.K. 4420

These facts courtesy of Sporting Life by Geoff Maclure thursday25th.Sept.
Author:  tap in 79 [ Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:05 am ]
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Interesting stat.

But we haven't won too many Brownlows. I guess the Brownlow is a bit like a chook raffle. You don't know what you are going to get. I mean if woewodin can get 3 votes for obtaining 12 possessions in a game then anything can happen and Williams can miss out for 35 possessions -then it is a raffle.



Saying that - i guess Judd has to be exceptional to get the votes. if he has a very good game he might not get the votes due to the higher expectations we have.

Would like to see a Carlton player win it soonish. That would be nice.
Author:  Car17on [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:42 pm ]
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Richmond isn't on that list

Must be ninth ...
Author:  true_blue3 [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:29 pm ]
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i also stumbled across this stat after the brownlow. it's quite an achievement to have the most brownlow votes of any team yet probably the least (?) brownlow medallists of any team. an indication of how succesful we have been as a team rather than having a few standout champions (not that we've had any shortages of them either).

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/brownlow/teamtotals.html

Carlton 4845
Essendon* 4841
Geelong 4708
Collingwood 4701
Hawthorn 4618
North Melbourne4438
Western Bulldogs 4423
St Kilda 4420
Sydney 4406
Richmond 4391
Melbourne 4206
Fitzroy 3427
West Coast 1567
Adelaide 1228
Brisbane Lions 913
Port Adelaide 870
Fremantle 782
Brisbane Bears 508


hang on, richmond are 10th. :?
Author:  darknavy [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:29 am ]
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Sydney are 9th and IIRC have the most Brownlow medalists.

That must make it a good ninth
Author:  Donstuie [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:35 am ]
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And yet we only have 4 winners. Goes to show that champion players don't always = champion clubs.
Author:  bluechucky [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:10 pm ]
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tap in 79 wrote:
Interesting stat.

But we haven't won too many Brownlows. I guess the Brownlow is a bit like a chook raffle. You don't know what you are going to get. I mean if woewodin can get 3 votes for obtaining 12 possessions in a game then anything can happen and Williams can miss out for 35 possessions -then it is a raffle.


I tought it was 40 possessions.
Author:  true_blue3 [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:23 pm ]
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bluechucky wrote:
tap in 79 wrote:
Interesting stat.

But we haven't won too many Brownlows. I guess the Brownlow is a bit like a chook raffle. You don't know what you are going to get. I mean if woewodin can get 3 votes for obtaining 12 possessions in a game then anything can happen and Williams can miss out for 35 possessions -then it is a raffle.


I tought it was 40 possessions.


try 44 and a goal.
Author:  AGRO [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:53 pm ]
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bluechucky wrote:
tap in 79 wrote:
Interesting stat.

But we haven't won too many Brownlows. I guess the Brownlow is a bit like a chook raffle. You don't know what you are going to get. I mean if woewodin can get 3 votes for obtaining 12 possessions in a game then anything can happen and Williams can miss out for 35 possessions -then it is a raffle.


I tought it was 40 possessions.



Traditionally havent done that well in Brownlows as we have had just too many good players in the same side pinching votes from each other.

Traditionally we also used to poll the most Brownlow Medal votes of any club each season as well. 8)

Footscray and South Melbourne have had so many Brownlow Medallists because in the old days if you were a decent player in a shit side you generally got votes even if you lost.

These days rarely happens.

Having said all that in recent memory the following Carlton Players have been really stiff not to win Brownlow.

- 1981 - Rod Ashman won just about every major media award that year and finished 2nd in the Brownlow to Bernie Quinlan and Barry Round by one vote (Carlton polled 96 Brownlow votes that year 10 more than 2nd placed Fitzroy).

- 1985 - Justin Madden had a stellar season and finished second by one vote to Brad Hardie - who spent most of the season in the back pocket chasing kicks and had every forward pocket in the VFL kick bags of goals against him. :roll: (Carlton finished second in Brownlow votes that year).

- 1987 - Paul Meldrum finished 2nd (5 votes behind Lockett Platten) after polling 5 best on grounds in the first 8 rounds) - wasnt even actually at the count that night from memory - (Carlton polled the most Brownlow votes that year.)

- 1990 - Stephen Silvagni finished 3rd only 2 votes behind winner Tony Liberatore - spent most of the season at CHB with a few great cameos up forward. Carlton had a relatively poor Brownlow year that year finished 8th).

- 1993 - "Moral Triple Brownlow Medallist" - Greg Williams finished 2nd to Gavin Wanganeen :roll: by 1 vote - and the famous game in Round 10 versus Melbourne where Williams got 44 possessions but failed to get a vote - thus "Moral Triple Brownlow Medallist - Greg Williams" Carlton finished 2nd on Brownlow votes that season.

- 2000 - Anthony Koutoufides - finished 4th 5 votes behind Shane Woewoedin :roll: - missing the last few games of the season due to a season ending knee injury - Kouta won a swag of media awards as well as the AFL Players Association MVP award - Ratts finished equal 5th that yeare with 18 votes so took a lot of votes from Kouta. Carlton finished 2nd on Brownlow votes that season.
Author:  CK95 [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:51 pm ]
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1990 - Stephen Silvagni finished 3rd only 2 votes behind winner Tony Liberatore - spent most of the season at CHB with a few great cameos up forward. Carlton had a relatively poor Brownlow year that year finished 8th).



And from memory Silvagni turned the game against Geelong that year, being shifted to CHF after half time, steering us to a 10 goal turnaround in a half.

Carlton, D. Fotia, 3 votes

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