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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:05 am 
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With so much emphasis being placed on acquiring additional ruck stocks, is Steve McKee the man we go forward with?
I'm not being critical of S MCK. just asking the question. If he has the confidence of the club to handle this very important component of the club's development, then great, more power to him.



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I was a bit nonplussed by the appointment of McKee. I don't know how much he knows about the technicalities of ruckwork, but I certainly don't remember him as being an awesome ruckman.


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Ditto re McKee - not sure why he was selected.

After the Cranbourne methane gas botch up, maybe Harry Madden might be available soon. 8)

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DownUnderChick wrote:
Ditto re McKee - not sure why he was selected.

After the Cranbourne methane gas botch up, maybe Harry Madden might be available soon. 8)

:-D :-D :-D

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Having played with McKee a few years ago, i can safely say that his coaching abilities far outweigh his playing abilities... He may not have been the best ruckman in the caper but his knowledge of the game and position and teaching techniques are really impressive...

Hard to believe i know, but like i said some people are just better coaches than players and vise versa...

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Marc Shmurf 3 wrote:
Having played with McKee a few years ago, i can safely say that his coaching abilities far outweigh his playing abilities... He may not have been the best ruckman in the caper but his knowledge of the game and position and teaching techniques are really impressive...

Hard to believe i know, but like i said some people are just better coaches than players and vise versa...


You know what they say


Those that can, do, Those that can't, teach .................


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Marc Shmurf 3 wrote:
Having played with McKee a few years ago, i can safely say that his coaching abilities far outweigh his playing abilities... He may not have been the best ruckman in the caper but his knowledge of the game and position and teaching techniques are really impressive...

Hard to believe i know, but like i said some people are just better coaches than players and vise versa...


Its not that hard to believe.

Its probably turning around in modern times, but throughout history the best coaches weren't always the best players and I think the reason average players dont get the opportunity to coach now is the fear of a club picking a no name and it not working out.

If the club are happy with McKee then I don't have an issue with him.

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coryne wrote:

You know what they say


Those that can, do, Those that can't, teach .................


One of the most ignorant sayings getting around, that one.


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TruBlueBrad wrote:
...Its probably turning around in modern times, but throughout history the best coaches weren't always the best players and I think the reason average players dont get the opportunity to coach now is the fear of a club picking a no name and it not working out...


It depends on a number of factors e.g. Alastair Clarkson & Dean Bailey

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murraycray wrote:
I wonder what Mark Porter is up to these days :)


I am fairly sure Mark works with the AFL Players Assosciation and Leading Teams


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AK43 wrote:
coryne wrote:

You know what they say


Those that can, do, Those that can't, teach .................


And as Jack black said in "School of rock"........

"Those that can, do, Those that can't, teach...... and those that can't teach teach Gym"

One for the Phys Edderrs out there!

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Marc Shmurf 3 wrote:
Having played with McKee a few years ago, i can safely say that his coaching abilities far outweigh his playing abilities... He may not have been the best ruckman in the caper but his knowledge of the game and position and teaching techniques are really impressive...

Hard to believe i know, but like i said some people are just better coaches than players and vise versa...

That is just SOOO true.
I am pretty sure Michael Phelps's swimming coach isn't as good a swimmer as Michael Phelps, for example. Which of the two would make a better ruck coach is probably up for grabs, though.
I reckon we need a ruck strategy coach as well as a technique coach. I have written this before but the modern trend is for rucks to tap the ball towards a player or group of players close to the ruck contest. They rarely tap it away from the contest to a player in the clear. This does happen, of course in set plays close to goal but in the centre bounce, not as much. In the olden days of golden ruckmen, such as the greatest of them all, they would try to get the footy clear of the congestion. He in particular was a master of it and would nominate a spot on the groud where there was nobody and palm the ball to that spot and Gags would often just run there and get it.
If we are going to get a very tall Warnock, maybe we should ask the greatest of them all to have a chat to him now and then as to how we can tap to advantage, not just win the hitout to a contest. I reckon he knows a bit about rucking, even in this modern era.

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BS, I think this is what you're trying to say...

Legend No 4: John Nicholls

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