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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:12 am 
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Ok so last year was a shambles, I turned 30 the same day Hawthorn flogged us by 100pts and the Club went down like cough medicine (Sorry had to clean it up a bit :lol: ).

Anyway all the rage the week before the game was Carlton had arrived, the two up and coming young gun teams were emerging, the game had reached blockbuster proportions, rumours flying around Buddy wouldn't play, he didn't and bang, we ended up smelling like pooh.

Big game syndrome had hit Carlton a few times this year and we have failed miserably, except against Collingwood :-D

Player Stats:

Blues: Carrots (30p, 19h, 7cle), Fev (3g), Simmo (26p), Bentick (10t)
Hawks: Sewell (33p, 5cle, 7cp, 9t), Hodge (29p, 20k, 4g, 7t, 5cle), Mitchell (26p, 9i50, 4cle), Ladson (3g), Boyle (3g), Croad (3g), roughead (5g, 9m)

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- Hawks had 70 more disposals
- Hawks had 13.5 disposals per goal
- Hawks had 8.3 disposals per scoring shot :shock:
- Hawks won the hitouts 50 to 21
- Hawks won inside 50 60 to 35 :shock:
- Carlton had a 20.3% disposal error rate
- Hawks had 16 bounces to 4

Intresting that Fev kicked 3 goals from 35 Carlton inside 50's, so tonight if we can get around 70 inside 50's that could mean around 6 goals to Fev :lol:

I've heard a rumour that Keiran Perkins has been in Fev's ear this week.

Team Changes:

Blues
In - Anderson, Grigg, Bower, Stevens, Judd, Kreuzer, Cloke, Armfield, Hampson
Out - Ackland, Blackwell, Bannister, Carlos, Whitnall, Saddington, Lappin, Kouta, Wiggins

Hawks
In - Franklin, Renouf, Williams, Rioli, Dew, Murphy, Stokes
Out - Smith, Crawford, Jacobs, Boyle, Taylor, McGlynn, Ellis

Tonight's Matchups:

Waite vs Franklin
Bower vs Roughead
Croad vs Fev
Anderson vs Rioli
Sewell vs Judd
Bentick vs Mitchell
Gibbs vs Hodge
Armfield vs Bateman

The key is stopping the run of the Hawks, if we let them run they will kill us, Bateman is generally the barometer in this department so somoene needs to be given the job, my first choice would be Army who has the pace and intensity to match him.

Inside the packs Campbell will feed Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and Sewell at a rapid rate, Benchy has a huge job tonight, he had been smashed against the quality centreman head to head when we have needed him most.

Stevo will be probably be let loose again, if Young is his man we could be in trouble as Young has the penetration in his kicking to hurt us, unless Stevo does the hard yards both ways.

Birchall, Guerra, Dew, Young, Ladson all like to play loose, so putting my kick it to Fev game plan aside, we need to use these boys opponents in our F50, if we do that the Hawks players will tighten up and the game will start to be played on our terms man on man.

The zone defense of Hawthorn can be beaten as Richmond showed. If our foot skills are up to it we need to chip and put around it , force the Hawks to man up and come to us, then run in numbers through it. I'd implement the pick 'n' roll play across half forward, hit the lead up target, run past for the handball and shoot.

I haven't mentioned Buddy yet :lol: lets hope Waitey is on or it could get ugly, second in line would be Bower who should start on Roughead with T-Bird taking Williams.

I'm lookng forward to the game, I'm hoping it will be a real hard battle, finals type game. We should treat this game like a final as it will give our boys a great deal of experience heading into next year, especially if we can get a win on the board.

My Tip is the Hawks by 33pts. Only because we will have the 2nd or 3rd quarter lapse that hurts us every week.

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Yep -- we're not going to win this one, unfortunately, but it's all about Fev tonight (oh, and that other upstart up the other end). Here's some stats from Footywire

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Yeah, that sounds about right to me mjonc.

How well we nullify Campbell's hitouts will go a long way toward deciding our fate in this game.

Also, given how much we struggled to cope with the Kangaroos zone from our kickouts two weeks ago I'll be interested to see how we go about overcoming that tonight.

Good luck JR in your 50th.

Go Fev and go Blues!

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Carrazzo & Scotland out for tonight.

Report on SEN is gone in for early surgery.

In Wiggo & Pfieffer?


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what channels the game being broadcasted on?

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I had a dream last night (alcohol affected) that the Blues kicked 10 goals in first quarter, Fev reached the ton and Buddy kicked 1.2 :shock:


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Rumours on BigFooty that Buddy is out also. Deja vu!!

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Don't think Army is anywhere near good enough to play on Bateman. I think sometimes we see potential and inject in place of current capability. Russell a better option. Yeah, I know the conventional wisdom is that Russell is crap and Army is fantastic but i they are being judged differently. Russell is judged by what he stuffs up, Army judged on what he does well.

I think the best match up for Roughead is Thornton, with Bower set for Williams. Roughead too strong for Bower.
I suspect Waite will get first crack at Franklin but if that fails, maybe Thornton. A couple of surprise back ups could be Walker or even Gibbs.

What do we do when Hodge goes forward?


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cj69 wrote:
Carrazzo & Scotland out for tonight.

Report on SEN is gone in for early surgery.

In Wiggo & Pfieffer?
mjonc wrote:
Rumours on BigFooty that Buddy is out also. Deja vu!!
Game Day Live shows the teams as named .. will need to wait until after 6pm. Just hope it's not true ...


ammo wrote:
what channels the game being broadcasted on?
In Melbourne its TEN ... check here for your market ...

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There's a match on today? :shock:




The last game against the Hawks all I can remember is tap outs from clearances and waves of three or four Hawthorn players running in formation with the ball.


Worst game I have ever seen. Seriously.


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thanks terg
np ammo - no one deserves to be without footy ...

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p(12)terg wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Carrazzo & Scotland out for tonight.

Report on SEN is gone in for early surgery.

In Wiggo & Pfieffer?
mjonc wrote:
Rumours on BigFooty that Buddy is out also. Deja vu!!
Game Day Live shows the teams as named .. will need to wait until after 6pm. Just hope it's not true ...


ammo wrote:
what channels the game being broadcasted on?
In Melbourne its TEN ... check here for your market ...


I dare say it'd be on HeraldSun online the moment it broke, considering the nature of the news.

Someone is obviously just trolling on BF to freak out the Hawks supporters.

Thanks for the info mate!


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The teams are finalised 30 mins before hand, so the line up not changing, is not unusual.

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DownUnderChick wrote:
The teams are finalised 30 mins before hand, so the line up not changing, is not unusual.
Yep - thought so

The HS site doesn't list the teams ... only the year's comparative stats

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So there are rumors on BF that Fev has back problems and Buddy has a virus .............. lol. Does ANYONE think ANY of it is true ???


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They said on the radio in WA this morning that Buddy has an ankle problem and didn't train all week. So he may not be 100% if he plays.


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Going to the game leaving right now im toooooo excited CMON BLUEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!


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