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 Post subject: the gamble
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:49 am 
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Does Ratts have such a feel for the game that he plays with the ebb and flow, holding players back, letting the opposition run themselves into the ground, trying to stem their damage before unleashing ours?

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 Post subject: Re: the gamble
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:08 am 
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Does Ratts have such a feel for the game that he plays with the ebb and flow, holding players back, letting the opposition run themselves into the ground, trying to stem their damage before unleashing ours?


Rope a dope?

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 Post subject: Re: the gamble
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Shakin77 wrote:
Rope a dope?



Nice analogy there.

Nice tactic too, from "Roll The Dice" Ratten.

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We'll call it the "Cassius Clay" defence.


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Hey db, I was actually thinking that myself last night.

He almost seems to allow teams to knock themselves out in a quarter, while we sit back and do anything :wink: and then BANG, the boys crank it up and go SMASH.

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 Post subject: Re: the gamble
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:01 am 
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dannyboy wrote:
Does Ratts have such a feel for the game that he plays with the ebb and flow, holding players back, letting the opposition run themselves into the ground, trying to stem their damage before unleashing ours?


No.

Until he bans Jarrod Waite from kicking out from full back he understands very little.


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When I played basketball I used to frustrate my teammates because I was constantly "playing loose" in defence yet managed the most steals. I just figured that if I left an opening it wasn't really an opening if I knew it was there and expected that my opponent would try to take it. It wasn't that successful against the really smart players though, they'd still beat me.

While it's a pretty intriguing idea I doubt that Ratten would be playing similar games with Carlton's opponents, relying on a fast finish is just too fraught with danger.


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 Post subject: Re: the gamble
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:04 am 
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dannyboy wrote:
Does Ratts have such a feel for the game that he plays with the ebb and flow, holding players back, letting the opposition run themselves into the ground, trying to stem their damage before unleashing ours?


so many people credit Justin Cordy for our last quarter blitz's but Brett ratten should claim all the credit with his game plan. The first quarter we run our little arse's off then the 2nd and 3rd we come to a complete stop and teams smash us but this is where he earns his money. His instructions help save our legs for the 4th quarter come back.


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strategy worked well against North last week.


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i find it worrying that we let teams get away the easily.

we just don't run hard enough enough in the first 3 quarters


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Melvey wrote:
i find it worrying that we let teams get away the easily.

we just don't run hard enough enough in the first 3 quarters

Which is why we have been up at 1/4 time the last couple of weeks :?


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bigfella wrote:
Melvey wrote:
i find it worrying that we let teams get away the easily.

we just don't run hard enough enough in the first 3 quarters

Which is why we have been up at 1/4 time the last couple of weeks :?


yeah and then let teams getaway in the second and third terms


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 Post subject: Re: the gamble
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:54 pm 
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Does Ratts have such a feel for the game that he plays with the ebb and flow, holding players back, letting the opposition run themselves into the ground, trying to stem their damage before unleashing ours?
It`s a good question. Not sure Ratts would be that happy with the size of leads sides are getting against us however there seems to be a willingness to try to absorb their best with the knowledge of the last qrt onslaught. When we get on that roll its the most exhilarating football in the comp and a real glimpse of what lies ahead.


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Hey db, I was actually thinking that myself last night.

He almost seems to allow teams to knock themselves out in a quarter, while we sit back and do anything :wink: and then BANG, the boys crank it up and go SMASH.
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p(12)terg wrote:
DownUnderChick wrote:
Hey db, I was actually thinking that myself last night.

He almost seems to allow teams to knock themselves out in a quarter, while we sit back and do anything :wink: and then BANG, the boys crank it up and go SMASH.
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Good man p12terg - you new what I meant. :-D

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DownUnderChick wrote:
p(12)terg wrote:
DownUnderChick wrote:
Hey db, I was actually thinking that myself last night.

He almost seems to allow teams to knock themselves out in a quarter, while we sit back and do anything :wink: and then BANG, the boys crank it up and go SMASH.
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Good man p12terg - you new what I meant. :-D
It must be a generational thing ...

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Phoenix wrote:
strategy worked well against North last week.


My thoughts exactly.

Your supposed to unleash hell BEFORE the game finishes, not with 30 seconds to go.


And peterg - what on Earth does "ZLOTT" mean? :lol:

Sounds menacing...


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Could be. :oops:

I had tell young shuff who hot lips was. I felt old.And shuff had the cheek to turn around and say he hates MASH.

Kids pfffft. :wink:

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DownUnderChick wrote:
Could be. :oops:

I had tell young shuff who hot lips was. I felt old.And shuff had the cheek to turn around and say he hates MASH.

Kids pfffft. :wink:


Holy Nappy-Wearers, DUC! ;) Those kids don't understand what they've missed....

(Although explaining to my daughter why there's a Batman she CAN watch - PURE WEST - and one she can't was particularly fun! )


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Pretty sure they look to hold Stevo back a bit so he can unleash in the last. :wink:


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