You added 14 question marks to the title of the thread however i can't see a question in the thread
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| Author: | MadBlue [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:40 pm ] |
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We HAVE to play Hampson so that at least we get a contest at the stoppages, centre bounces etc.......Every week we get absolutely killed in this area. As much ac Cloke tries his heart out he is just to undersized and we can't expect alot from Kuezer just yet |
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| Author: | Skippers Blues [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:42 pm ] |
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i'd even have a look at Sammy Jacobs, wasn't to bad for the ants yesterday, not sure if he would be much fit, but cloke just battled today |
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:43 pm ] |
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I posted elsewhere, Cloke is even stuffing up the simple things now |
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| Author: | Pklz [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:45 pm ] |
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You added 14 question marks to the title of the thread however i can't see a question in the thread
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| Author: | SA Blue [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:46 pm ] |
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It is an interesting point. Hampson will struggle as well as it takes time for rucks. Do we trade for another ruck? |
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| Author: | AndyLukimitis [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:07 pm ] |
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Skippers Blues wrote: i'd even have a look at Sammy Jacobs, wasn't to bad for the ants yesterday, not sure if he would be much fit, but cloke just battled today
At least to me, Jacobs looks like a big-bodied sort of kid who could compete against the big blokes. |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:14 pm ] |
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Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment. Just sayin' 
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| Author: | septembergurl [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:15 pm ] |
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Nobody on our list will provide a solution to our ruck crisis. Not this year and not next year.How much do you want to win the ruck? I thought we did alright against a strong ruck duo. Hampson is good but up and down in his intensity. We will be thrashed in ruck regardless of who is in. Right or wrong, players get judged by their worst, not their best. And at the moment, Cloke's worst is better than Hampson's who, while having all the attributes of a dominant ruck, goes missing during games. |
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| Author: | scottopee [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:18 pm ] |
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Donstuie wrote: Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment.
Just sayin' Bashing up big bad Maric Moran and Tippett
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:21 pm ] |
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scottopee wrote: Donstuie wrote: Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment. Just sayin' Bashing up big bad Maric Moran and Tippett Same two guys who towelled up our boys a couple of months ago IIRC
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| Author: | fmurphy30 [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:29 pm ] |
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Donstuie wrote: Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment.
Just sayin' Don't want Brogan. Will come with a big price tag and a short future. Would like to see us play Jacobs so a call can be made on his future. Hammer spent most of his time in the magoos yesterday on the forwardline. Had a quiet one. Sauce was good and maybe deserves a shot. Cloke needs a week or two in the VFL. Kruezer maybe as well. |
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| Author: | SparkyBlue [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:40 pm ] |
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Donstuie wrote: Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment.
Just sayin' Said this, just like I mentioned Steven King trade time last year. Shot down as usual. "Not part of our future, short-term, too many rucks". Sure we have a lot of ruckmen right now - but name one experienced, hardened, built ruckman that can take the bulk of the pressure off the rest. We don't have one. A 2-3 year prospect, big $$$s or otherwise will pay for himself by taking the pressure off Kruezer, Cloke and Co. Give the kids some time to develop. Mind you, I realise this entire post will be ignored... 
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| Author: | SparkyBlue [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:49 pm ] |
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SparkyBlue wrote: I am also worried about how this will affect potential Irish recruits, hopefully they won't read more into this.
In a quick straw poll - anybody here have any idea whether Aisake will be retained by the club?! I never found out the whole story about his pre-season indescretions/falling out with the club... Once again. No response. I'm of the opinion now that my posts get skipped over. Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore. |
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| Author: | scottopee [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:54 pm ] |
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SparkyBlue wrote: SparkyBlue wrote: I am also worried about how this will affect potential Irish recruits, hopefully they won't read more into this. In a quick straw poll - anybody here have any idea whether Aisake will be retained by the club?! I never found out the whole story about his pre-season indescretions/falling out with the club... Once again. No response. I'm of the opinion now that my posts get skipped over. Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore. What was that wasn't listening 
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| Author: | DIAMOTISM [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:55 pm ] |
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SparkyBlue wrote: SparkyBlue wrote: I am also worried about how this will affect potential Irish recruits, hopefully they won't read more into this. In a quick straw poll - anybody here have any idea whether Aisake will be retained by the club?! I never found out the whole story about his pre-season indescretions/falling out with the club... Once again. No response. I'm of the opinion now that my posts get skipped over. Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore. Dear SparkyBlue, Please be advised that your post has been acknowledged. Kind Regards, Ronnie |
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| Author: | SparkyBlue [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:01 pm ] |
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DIAMOTISM wrote: SparkyBlue wrote: SparkyBlue wrote: I am also worried about how this will affect potential Irish recruits, hopefully they won't read more into this. In a quick straw poll - anybody here have any idea whether Aisake will be retained by the club?! I never found out the whole story about his pre-season indescretions/falling out with the club... Once again. No response. I'm of the opinion now that my posts get skipped over. Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore. Dear SparkyBlue, Please be advised that your post has been acknowledged. Kind Regards, Ronnie
Coulda told me earlier. Didn't need a return post. Just an acknowledgment... ...now, how about the post before that? |
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| Author: | shuffagus [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:14 pm ] |
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yea, i'd have either him or jacobs in for cloke. lets get some experience into them. |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:18 pm ] |
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SparkyBlue wrote: Donstuie wrote: Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment. Just sayin' Said this, just like I mentioned Steven King trade time last year. Shot down as usual. "Not part of our future, short-term, too many rucks". Sure we have a lot of ruckmen right now - but name one experienced, hardened, built ruckman that can take the bulk of the pressure off the rest. We don't have one. A 2-3 year prospect, big $$$s or otherwise will pay for himself by taking the pressure off Kruezer, Cloke and Co. Give the kids some time to develop. Mind you, I realise this entire post will be ignored... I too hoped we would go after King last year, and I can imagine a few "wtf"s from our recruiting people when the aints got him so cheap. The fact is, the boys need help. Kreuz and Hammer can (and hopefully will) become elite ruckman in a few years, but at this stage they shouldn't have to compete against the monsters of the league (Cox, Sandilands, Lade/Brogan, Jolly) every time they run on to the field. Right now, they're second-string rucks, but they've had to play like first-string rucks so far in their short careers. Cloke tries his guts out, and doesn't get intimidated, but physically he can't compete either. Getting a ready-made, experience, big-bodied ruckman (who may be within 2-3 years of the end of his career) could be invaluable for the boys' development. In 2-3 years time, when said player retires, hopefully Kreuz and Hammer will have developed to be able to then take on that role, rather than praying that by then their bodies aren't shot to hell. So yes, I definitely see the value in pursuing a ruckman during the trading period. |
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| Author: | DIAMOTISM [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:28 pm ] |
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Donstuie wrote: SparkyBlue wrote: Donstuie wrote: Brogan's killing them in the showdown at the moment. Just sayin' Said this, just like I mentioned Steven King trade time last year. Shot down as usual. "Not part of our future, short-term, too many rucks". Sure we have a lot of ruckmen right now - but name one experienced, hardened, built ruckman that can take the bulk of the pressure off the rest. We don't have one. A 2-3 year prospect, big $$$s or otherwise will pay for himself by taking the pressure off Kruezer, Cloke and Co. Give the kids some time to develop. Mind you, I realise this entire post will be ignored... I too hoped we would go after King last year, and I can imagine a few "wtf"s from our recruiting people when the aints got him so cheap. The fact is, the boys need help. Kreuz and Hammer can (and hopefully will) become elite ruckman in a few years, but at this stage they shouldn't have to compete against the monsters of the league (Cox, Sandilands, Lade/Brogan, Jolly) every time they run on to the field. Right now, they're second-string rucks, but they've had to play like first-string rucks so far in their short careers. Cloke tries his guts out, and doesn't get intimidated, but physically he can't compete either. Getting a ready-made, experience, big-bodied ruckman (who may be within 2-3 years of the end of his career) could be invaluable for the boys' development. In 2-3 years time, when said player retires, hopefully Kreuz and Hammer will have developed to be able to then take on that role, rather than praying that by then their bodies aren't shot to hell. So yes, I definitely see the value in pursuing a ruckman during the trading period. A premiership with St.Kilda is the motivator for King to continue. Not sure he would have wanted to come to us. |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:29 pm ] |
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Yeah, cos we all know how good they are at THAT
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