OK I will wake this website up......

We need to Sack Hughes!!! Our recruiting is crap

+ Houlihan is soft and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Scotland doesn't chase and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Stevens is fat and unprofessional and won't be part of our next premiership
+ O'hAilpin is a dud and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Russell is crap and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Bannister is not the future and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Wiggins goes hard but won't be part of our next premiership
+ Carrazzo can't kick and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Bentick is too slow and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Fevola sooks too much and won't sign his contact and if he doesn't he can piss off and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Fisher can't kick more than 40m and won't be part of our next premiership
+ Waite has too many brain fades and if they continue he won't be part of our next premiership
+ Ratten can't coach and is being carried by Judd and Fevola and won't be part of our next premiership

All I know is where I come from, where I've been, and where I want to be. Where I'm going is the exciting part...I don't know, so I try to make things happen.

My first live game (despite living next door to Uncle Teddy Whitten) was the 1968 GF.

Against that backdrop there's been a plethora of great victories and flags I have witneseed first hand in 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987, 1995 and in between those years Carlton was always a threat and a powerhouse after spending years in gloom since the bloody 1945 flag; I wasn't alive for that gloom.

What I do know is that in those years I was alive, between flags we lost opportunities for Flags in 1969, 1973, 1986, 1993 and 1999. Every one of those years has built a passion for revenge against those who took away our right to the flags, in particular, 1973 and 1993.

We should have won in 1980 and made it 4 in a row, but for the politics of factions which tarnished our club and our history making opportunity.

We were robbed by the umpires in 1999, and 1993 we were the best team by far, but also the walking wounded when we entered the arena on that final day of September; I call the 1993 team our ANZACS.

Then there was Black Friday, and the following 5 years, and the years ahead till the 17th Flag and 18th, and 19th an so on. Never forget the slander, deception and degrading acts we had to endure in our darkest moments; the years of our first spoons after avoiding such humiliation for over 100 years.

My point is, remember where we've come from. Lets never lose our resolve to win back those Flags which were stolen, contrived and lost, to strive to kick the highest score on record (again), to win our 4 flags in a row, nah 5 in a row, to have more flags than our counterparts and traditional foes, Essendon*, Collingwood and Richmond, and to be the most feared and reverred sporting establishment in the land.

We have a long way to go, and if we continue to set our goals high, as we're known for, we have much improvement to make up ahead of us, and our current lot are journey men amongst the supporters who will be there till the day they die.

We must encourage our current legion to continue the fight, to strive for excellence, to bring back that arrogance, that swagger of the Bluebagger in our quest for the next Flag, and the one after that.

There will be players who will fail to deliver every week, who will fail to sacrifice their body for the jumper, and for their team mates who wear the same jumper, or push themselves in the preseason and in the dying minutes of every quarterin every game to be the best in order to get theirs and our hands on the holy grail; the premiership cup.

Whilst there are gaps and obvious areas for improvement for our club, we will have something to vent our disappointment with. Whilst we will always respect the sacrifices the players, the coaches and the administration make, nothing is more important and will stand in the way of this club being the most respected, reverred and most important club in the country again; our rightful place in the land at the top.

There is alot to discuss and debate today and moving forward. There are delistings which whilst may hurt some are compulsory and a fact of life in the modern era. There are expectations of coaches and administation and they will make mistakes, and will need to be held accountable. There are great players playing outside our club who need to be embraced, and to pave the path for their salvation to glory from joining our club.

The job isn't done my fellow Bluebaggers. There's a long way to go before we win 5 in a row, and do not expect anything less. It is our duty on this forum to continue to strive for excellence and the well being of our club, and keep the bastards honest; but do it with dignity and respect.

We are Carlton, flower the rest.

All I know is where I come from, where I've been, and where I want to be. Where I'm going is the exciting part...I don't know, so I try to make things happen.

My first live game (despite living next door to Uncle Teddy Whitten) was the 1968 GF.

Against that backdrop there's been a plethora of great victories and flags I have witneseed first hand in 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987, 1995 and in between those years Carlton was always a threat and a powerhouse after spending years in gloom since the bloody 1945 flag; I wasn't alive for that gloom.

What I do know is that in those years I was alive, between flags we lost opportunities for Flags in 1969, 1973, 1986, 1993 and 1999. Every one of those years has built a passion for revenge against those who took away our right to the flags, in particular, 1973 and 1993.

We should have won in 1980 and made it 4 in a row, but for the politics of factions which tarnished our club and our history making opportunity.

We were robbed by the umpires in 1999, and 1993 we were the best team by far, but also the walking wounded when we entered the arena on that final day of September; I call the 1993 team our ANZACS.

Then there was Black Friday, and the following 5 years, and the years ahead till the 17th Flag and 18th, and 19th an so on. Never forget the slander, deception and degrading acts we had to endure in our darkest moments; the years of our first spoons after avoiding such humiliation for over 100 years.

My point is, remember where we've come from. Lets never lose our resolve to win back those Flags which were stolen, contrived and lost, to strive to kick the highest score on record (again), to win our 4 flags in a row, nah 5 in a row, to have more flags than our counterparts and traditional foes, Essendon*, Collingwood and Richmond, and to be the most feared and reverred sporting establishment in the land.

We have a long way to go, and if we continue to set our goals high, as we're known for, we have much improvement to make up ahead of us, and our current lot are journey men amongst the supporters who will be there till the day they die.

We must encourage our current legion to continue the fight, to strive for excellence, to bring back that arrogance, that swagger of the Bluebagger in our quest for the next Flag, and the one after that.

There will be players who will fail to deliver every week, who will fail to sacrifice their body for the jumper, and for their team mates who wear the same jumper, or push themselves in the preseason and in the dying minutes of every quarterin every game to be the best in order to get theirs and our hands on the holy grail; the premiership cup.

Whilst there are gaps and obvious areas for improvement for our club, we will have something to vent our disappointment with. Whilst we will always respect the sacrifices the players, the coaches and the administration make, nothing is more important and will stand in the way of this club being the most respected, reverred and most important club in the country again; our rightful place in the land at the top.

There is alot to discuss and debate today and moving forward. There are delistings which whilst may hurt some are compulsory and a fact of life in the modern era. There are expectations of coaches and administation and they will make mistakes, and will need to be held accountable. There are great players playing outside our club who need to be embraced, and to pave the path for their salvation to glory from joining our club.

The job isn't done my fellow Bluebaggers. There's a long way to go before we win 5 in a row, and do not expect anything less. It is our duty on this forum to continue to strive for excellence and the well being of our club, and keep the bastards honest; but do it with dignity and respect.

We are Carlton, flower the rest.

I've been over at that other place arguing - but they don't like me there much either .

Bring back EB , Carlton God and BO - them along with Synbad liven this place up