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Some people just aren't into using 'nicknames'. I rarely, if ever call my staff by their nicknames. I think Bosses have to have some sort of separation from their staff and/or players along the way no-matter how small.

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Regards Cazzesman

There's no doubt Ratts has a lot of affection for his players, and wants the team to feel like a big family. He loves the club, that much is clear, which is one of the things I love most about him as a coach.

thats a great pickup on ratts' language. it does show that while he has the passion and love for the club - see his barracking in the coaches box - he is professional enough to recognise that he needs to place a barrier between his personal and professional relationships with the players, which will help when he needs to give them a rocket.
good analysis of an often unnoticed aspect of coaching

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Article in The Age today re Neil Craig's delayed post-match review with Crows' players
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/craig-opts-for-slowcooked-meal-instead-of-roast/2008/07/03/1214950952476.htmlarticle.
I've always had great respect for Neil Craig & wonder whether this is another tool Brett Ratten can add/has already added to his arsenal.

Listening to Brett talking post match, I noticed that he pretty much always referred to players by their first (or full) name, rather than the names they're more commonly known by. Sorry to not to have exact quotes to hand, but I'm pretty sure it was "Chris" rather than "Juddy", "Nick" rather than "Stevo", etc. Maybe I'm on too much of a high after the win & he's done it before, or I'm reading too much into it, but I like that he's doing this ... to me it shows a different relationship between a coach & his players.
FWIW.

Author:	illyria [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:24 pm ]
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Listening to Brett talking post match, I noticed that he pretty much always referred to players by their first (or full) name, rather than the names they're more commonly known by. Sorry to not to have exact quotes to hand, but I'm pretty sure it was "Chris" rather than "Juddy", "Nick" rather than "Stevo", etc. Maybe I'm on too much of a high after the win & he's done it before, or I'm reading too much into it, but I like that he's doing this ... to me it shows a different relationship between a coach & his players. FWIW.

Author:	CK95 [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:28 pm ]
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Welcome to the site Illana.

Author:	Cazzesman [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:34 pm ]
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Some people just aren't into using 'nicknames'. I rarely, if ever call my staff by their nicknames. I think Bosses have to have some sort of separation from their staff and/or players along the way no-matter how small. Welcome to TC Regards Cazzesman

Author:	Donstuie [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:56 pm ]
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There's no doubt Ratts has a lot of affection for his players, and wants the team to feel like a big family. He loves the club, that much is clear, which is one of the things I love most about him as a coach.

Author:	Rhys26 [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:01 pm ]
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Cazzesman wrote: Some people just aren't into using 'nicknames'. I rarely, if ever call my staff by their nicknames. I think Bosses have to have some sort of separation from their staff and/or players along the way no-matter how small. Welcome to TC Regards Cazzesman Cornflakes use to at st.kilda

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Author:	illyria [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:03 pm ]
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Cazzesman wrote: Some people just aren't into using 'nicknames'. I rarely, if ever call my staff by their nicknames. I think Bosses have to have some sort of separation from their staff and/or players along the way no-matter how small. Thanks for the welcome CK95 & Cazzesman ... please call me Illy for short In my personal & professional life I always use the name people introduce themselves to me as (sorry, shocking gramma/er!) unless they tell me otherwise. I agree, Cazzesman, that bosses need a degree of separation ... just not sure I've seen it that often in AFL clubs recently & am really impressed for some undefined reason that Brett is doing it. PS. don't think I've got the quote function under control, but will work on it PPS. ok ... enable BBCode!

Author:	illyria [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:28 pm ]
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Donstuie wrote: There's no doubt Ratts has a lot of affection for his players, and wants the team to feel like a big family. He loves the club, that much is clear, which is one of the things I love most about him as a coach. There's my undefined reason ... thanks Donstuie

Author:	camel [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:47 pm ]
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Listen to it for yourself... http://sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/audio ... point-2955

Author:	cj69 [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:37 am ]
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Was interested in the Kernahan interview on 3AW yesterday. He made it very clear that Ratten had been given a 2 year deal with certain criteria to has to be met in that period. Didn't specify what that was but I would assume development of the kids and a bit of pride (and arrogance) back in the Carlton jumper would be among them.

Author:	bender [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:15 am ]
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thats a great pickup on ratts' language. it does show that while he has the passion and love for the club - see his barracking in the coaches box - he is professional enough to recognise that he needs to place a barrier between his personal and professional relationships with the players, which will help when he needs to give them a rocket. good analysis of an often unnoticed aspect of coaching

Author:	illyria [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:26 pm ]
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bender wrote: thats a great pickup on ratts' language. it does show that while he has the passion and love for the club - see his barracking in the coaches box - he is professional enough to recognise that he needs to place a barrier between his personal and professional relationships with the players, which will help when he needs to give them a rocket. good analysis of an often unnoticed aspect of coaching Article in The Age today re Neil Craig's delayed post-match review with Crows' players http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/craig-opts-for-slowcooked-meal-instead-of-roast/2008/07/03/1214950952476.htmlarticle. I've always had great respect for Neil Craig & wonder whether this is another tool Brett Ratten can add/has already added to his arsenal.

Author:	Taff [ Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:45 pm ]
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illyria wrote: bender wrote: thats a great pickup on ratts' language. it does show that while he has the passion and love for the club - see his barracking in the coaches box - he is professional enough to recognise that he needs to place a barrier between his personal and professional relationships with the players, which will help when he needs to give them a rocket. good analysis of an often unnoticed aspect of coaching Article in The Age today re Neil Craig's delayed post-match review with Crows' players http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/craig-opts-for-slowcooked-meal-instead-of-roast/2008/07/03/1214950952476.htmlarticle. I've always had great respect for Neil Craig & wonder whether this is another tool Brett Ratten can add/has already added to his arsenal. Yes an interesting approach. The berating of players and the firey speech are over rated and outdated approaches, especially at the top level. Mind you it shouldn't happen at any level really. Reminds me of an old story about a little boy who had been berated by his school Principal. When asked by his mother about what the Principal said, he didn't know but he did know that the Principal had big hairs in his nose!

Author:	Siegfried [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:32 pm ]
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illyria wrote: Listening to Brett talking post match, I noticed that he pretty much always referred to players by their first (or full) name, rather than the names they're more commonly known by. Sorry to not to have exact quotes to hand, but I'm pretty sure it was "Chris" rather than "Juddy", "Nick" rather than "Stevo", etc. Maybe I'm on too much of a high after the win & he's done it before, or I'm reading too much into it, but I like that he's doing this ... to me it shows a different relationship between a coach & his players. FWIW. Welcome Illy...I think you will find that most (if not all) coaches, CEOs, Football Managers etc refer to the players by their proper names. As has been pointed out, it's that managerial separation coming into play.

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