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Author:  aboynamedsue [ Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

Sydney Blue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
Listing our best 22 is getting more difficult. A good sign!
Every year in the off season it is almost impossible to fit all the players into the best 22 . So many gun players to choose from.
Come round 5 to 6 you are hard pressed picking 22.

Let's hope that this trend stops this season

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Author:  bondiblue [ Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

aboynamedsue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
Listing our best 22 is getting more difficult. A good sign!
Every year in the off season it is almost impossible to fit all the players into the best 22 . So many gun players to choose from.
Come round 5 to 6 you are hard pressed picking 22.

Let's hope that this trend stops this season

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True

A better run with injury will be a good starting place.
You'd think with another preseason and well driled Game Plan the depth will come from that.

Author:  grrofunger [ Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

Simpson Jones Plowman
Newman Weitering Docherty(*?)
SPS Cripps Walsh
LOB Betts Newnes
Curnow Mckay McGovern

Kruezer Murphy Curnow

Silvagni Casboult Setterfield Stocker


*Docherty a real unknown , I hope he comes back close to what we all know he can be

Author:  DesEnglish [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

As usual, more hope than reality

FB Plowman Weiters Marchbank
HB Doc Jones Williamson
C Samo Cripps Martin
Foll Kruze Walsh Setterfield
HF McGovern Charlie Cunners
FF BETTS McKay Murphy

Bench Levi Stocker Newman Ed

Thanks Simmo, but we need to move on

Author:  Walsh [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

Thought about it and created a headache so will leave it to Teague to earn his pennies.

Author:  jake_h03 [ Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Our best 22?

DesEnglish wrote:
As usual, more hope than reality

FB Plowman Weiters Marchbank
HB Doc Jones Williamson
C Samo Cripps Martin
Foll Kruze Walsh Setterfield
HF McGovern Charlie Cunners
FF BETTS McKay Murphy

Bench Levi Stocker Newman Ed

Thanks Simmo, but we need to move on


This looks pretty spot on to me. Simmo interchangeable with will pending form and fitness.

Simmo, Gibbons, JSOS, LOB, Kennedy, Fisher, Dow all unlucky. Starting to get some real depth and we’ll have another first rounder draft pick to add to that list soon


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Author:  Meekster [ Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:39 pm ]
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Looks like we’ll get Martin, so

Marchy Jones Newman
Samo Weiters Doc
Simpson Cripps Fish
Martin Charlie Cunners
Eddie McKay McGov
Kreuz Ed Walsh
Int: Murphy, Plowman, Dow, JSOS

Emg - in order: Cas, Stocker, Newnes, Gibbons, Setters, LO’B, Kennedy, TDK, Willo, Lang

Went with JSOS over other options due to flexibility on fwd, mid and back
Assume rotating 7 man backline with Simpson playing the loose defensive wing
Hope Stocker can break in early due to performance
LOB and Newnes could take the Fish position, but want to give the 1st crack
Cas will be great depth and likely play plenty but I prefer Marchbank to start
Gibbons also unlucky after the season he had but I think Dow and Cunners will be preferred initially

Starting to get some good depth

Author:  TheSwan [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

Can't see Dow in the best 22 unfortunately. We all.9f a sudden have an experienced starting 22 with a good sprinkle of youth.

Plowman
Jones
Newman

Doc
Weitering
Newnes

Walsh
Cripps
SPS

Kreutzer
Murph
Ed

Martin
Charlie
Fisher

Eddie
McKay
Cas

Setters
Marchbank
Simpson
Gibbons

Author:  bondiblue [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

TheSwan wrote:
Can't see Dow in the best 22 unfortunately. We all.9f a sudden have an experienced starting 22 with a good sprinkle of youth.

Plowman
Jones
Newman

Doc
Weitering
Newnes

Walsh
Cripps
SPS

Kreutzer
Murph
Ed

Martin
Charlie
Fisher

Eddie
McKay
Cas

Setters
Marchbank
Simpson
Gibbons


That's a huge spine from Plowman to Gibbons Swanny :wink:

You weren't impressed with what you saw with The Gov when he came back from Boot Camp with Russell?

Author:  Sidefx [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:15 pm ]
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Is it just me or do the players look a little thin in the arms and shoulders in the latest training pics?

When does AR have them hitting the weights?

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019- ... ovember-12

Author:  toddkurnski [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:20 pm ]
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I am starting to get concerned that Kade Simpson will never fill out. :)

Author:  Sidefx [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:38 pm ]
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toddkurnski wrote:
I am starting to get concerned that Kade Simpson will never fill out. :)

:lol:

Author:  Mickstar [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:32 pm ]
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toddkurnski wrote:
I am starting to get concerned that Kade Simpson will never fill out. :)


Faaark Toddy.......................funniest thing i have read on here for a long time.Like you,i am also concerned.

Author:  jake_h03 [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Our best 22?

Sidefx wrote:
Is it just me or do the players look a little thin in the arms and shoulders in the latest training pics?

When does AR have them hitting the weights?

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019- ... ovember-12


I know our fitness staff are very strict on the young guys not bulking up too much too soon. Weitering and TDK in particular have been pulled aside in the past and told to lay off the weights


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Author:  MIL [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

Meekster wrote:
Looks like we’ll get Martin, so

Marchy Jones Newman
Samo Weiters Doc
Simpson Cripps Fish
Martin Charlie Cunners
Eddie McKay McGov
Kreuz Ed Walsh
Int: Murphy, Plowman, Dow, JSOS

Emg - in order: Cas, Stocker, Newnes, Gibbons, Setters, LO’B, Kennedy, TDK, Willo, Lang

Went with JSOS over other options due to flexibility on fwd, mid and back
Assume rotating 7 man backline with Simpson playing the loose defensive wing
Hope Stocker can break in early due to performance
LOB and Newnes could take the Fish position, but want to give the 1st crack
Cas will be great depth and likely play plenty but I prefer Marchbank to start
Gibbons also unlucky after the season he had but I think Dow and Cunners will be preferred initially

Starting to get some good depth


Well will you look at that list of names out of the best 22. Lucky for them that injury-illness means at least a few opportunities are likely for them each week ! But I say a fit Willo and Stocker are auto top 22 picks and would walk into most teams. The rest are all about right, but in a couple of years, the King could be the next Grundy. Appears we have some depth :thumbsup:

Author:  TheSwan [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

bondiblue wrote:
TheSwan wrote:
Can't see Dow in the best 22 unfortunately. We all.9f a sudden have an experienced starting 22 with a good sprinkle of youth.

Plowman
Jones
Newman

Doc
Weitering
Newnes

Walsh
Cripps
SPS

Kreutzer
Murph
Ed

Martin
Charlie
Fisher

Eddie
McKay
Cas

Setters
Marchbank
Simpson
Gibbons


That's a huge spine from Plowman to Gibbons Swanny :wink:

You weren't impressed with what you saw with The Gov when he came back from Boot Camp with Russell?



He definitely improved however until proven otherwise, Casboult is the better player.

Author:  bondiblue [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

TheSwan wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
TheSwan wrote:
Can't see Dow in the best 22 unfortunately. We all.9f a sudden have an experienced starting 22 with a good sprinkle of youth.

Plowman
Jones
Newman

Doc
Weitering
Newnes

Walsh
Cripps
SPS

Kreutzer
Murph
Ed

Martin
Charlie
Fisher

Eddie
McKay
Cas

Setters
Marchbank
Simpson
Gibbons


That's a huge spine from Plowman to Gibbons Swanny :wink:

You weren't impressed with what you saw with The Gov when he came back from Boot Camp with Russell?



He definitely improved however until proven otherwise, Casboult is the better player.


I thought Levi did really well in defense with the absence of Jones and Marchbank, and Gov played forward. Different roles.

By the way, I love Levi and agree he earned a spot in the 22 after his 2019 performance, and should be considered as the inform backman against that backdrop.

Having said that, I wonder if he has to make way for Jones and Marchbank if they are fully fit.

Point is, I don't think the Levi selection has anything to do with Gov.
As a forward Levi playes the KPD/Ruck role, which is not what Gov plays, and my gut feel is that I don't think Levi will take Harry McLay's spot TBH.

Author:  TheSwan [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

Fair enough. Hard to fill your team full of our best players when you are limited to positions with the big guys.

I am harsh on Gov because from day one , I had a feeling he would be a bust and besides a few glimpses of showing what he can do, I haven't seen anything that tells me otherwise.

For a 1st year player to be in a position where he became unfit and needed a boot camp, is unacceptable. I can't accept that, not until he starts performing.

Author:  toddkurnski [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:23 pm ]
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TheSwan wrote:
Fair enough. Hard to fill your team full of our best players when you are limited to positions with the big guys.

I am harsh on Gov because from day one , I had a feeling he would be a bust and besides a few glimpses of showing what he can do, I haven't seen anything that tells me otherwise.

For a 1st year player to be in a position where he became unfit and needed a boot camp, is unacceptable. I can't accept that, not until he starts performing.


McGovern has come back early and incredibly trim.

https://m.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-11 ... ovember-13

Needs to take the watch of at training though!

Author:  carntheblues [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Our best 22?

My initial thoughts:

Plowman Weitering Marchbank
Docherty Jones Simpson
Walsh Cripps Setterfield
JSOS C Curnow Fisher
McGovern McKay Cunningham

Kruezer Murphy E Curnow

Int: Casbolt SPS Dow Gibbons

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