Greetings Earthlings,

Obscuratron has been most pleased with all of the talk of verbeek's, tarczon's and majerczak's that has been happening on TalkingCarlton. It really melts my hearts to see these gods amongst men treated so well.

Obscuratron could not see the game on Saturday because Obscuratron had to go to the local pound to see if our lost Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Trall had turned up. While I was there my hearing organ was burning, so Obscuratron knew something was up. When Obscuratron finally saw the scores it sent shivers down my spines.

So to this weeks swapsies:

Carlton to Geelong

1990, Pre-Season, pick 55, Michael Garvey, 0 games
2000, National, Trade, Justin Murphy, for pick 11 (which got Trent Sporn), 18 games

Geelong to Carlton

1995, National, Trade, Adrian Hickmott, for pick 49 (which got Ronnie Burns), 134 games
1999, National, Trade, Michael Mansfield, for pick 31 (which got Paul Chapman), 54 games
2001, National, Trade, Justin Murphy, for pick 23 (which got Charlie Gardiner), 36 games
2003, National, Trade, David Clarke, three way trade where we gave up Simon Beaumont, 10 games

Simon Fletcher cam from the Geelong reserves.

In theory, Carlton could have Charlie Gardiner (the five players just after him in the draft were Steve Johnson, Steven Armstrong, Aaron Rogers, Tom Davidson, Mark Powell) and Paul Chapman (the five players just after him in the draft were Danny Giansiracusa, Tim Clarke, Leon Davis, Patrick Wiggins, Rhett Biglands) on the list.

Anyone remember any pre-draft swapsies?

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To Obscurity and Beyond!

Ahh memories of Mansfield - almost as good as O'Reilly.

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"Whoever said you can't buy happiness forgot about puppies." - Gene Hill

Wasn't Carrots on the Geelong rookie list?

Is he eligible for the NRS?

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Congratulations CK95

Ted Baker

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"Whoever said you can't buy happiness forgot about puppies." - Gene Hill

David Clarke's father played for us in Season 1982 and was responsible for a couple of goals in the Preliminary Final which we won against Hawthorn - then was subsequently dropped for the Grand Final (as was Frank Marchesani).

However David Parkin allowed Clarke and Marchesani the 'honour' of running out on the ground for the 1982 Grand Final in full kit and through the banner with the rest of the players.


Chris Mitchell who was John Newman's understudy - crossed over to us in mid-season (I think it was 1971) played his first game against Geelong and kicked 5 goals - only ever played another handful of games for us.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Who in all future discussions will be referred to "He who cannot be named" or "Orally".

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Wasn't Mario Bortolotto a Cat as well as a Blue? Let's not forget Diesel Williams, went from Carlton as a youngin' to the Cattery before moving to SinCity....Adrian Hickmott was a great trade when he came across to us after the '95 win...

There's bound to be more...

would 'Scum' be okay also?

Yes a Dual Premiership Player. Isn't that right Gary Lyon.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Speaking of Orally, he started out with Geelong before moving to Freo and then raping us - figuratively...

Does that count?

And on Mansfield, I thought he did OK for us. It's just a bastard that we gave away such a good pick and paid him so much.

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Cer 'ch 'n alluog Blues

didn't adam chatfiled go from carlton, to geelongs rookie list?

He had a "snap hook" shot for goal that even Ian Baker-Finch would be embarrassed of.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Good thing he was a defender then...

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Cer 'ch 'n alluog Blues

I'm not sure, but didn't Rod Waddell come from or go to the Cats?

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

the horror the horror

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"Whoever said you can't buy happiness forgot about puppies." - Gene Hill

I went to the Cats.

Rod, i've been wondering are you the real Rod Waddell, the migty number 10 (I think???) or is your monikor just a tribute to the great man.

Ezra Bray was a rookie for both clubs!

As many can attest he played in the forward line enough so we could remember.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Ray Byrne went from Carlton to geelong via several losing grand finals at Collingwood.

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From little things, big things grow - Paul Kelly (The singer, not the Swan)