TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Round 4

Pro - Jordan Russell played probably his best game for the club.

Con - and he still wasnt much chop

Bower, as I've said in the past week, with more games will only get better and better, and he took another step today. He cops a lot when we don't play well, but once again justified those who look towards the positives week in week out.

I'd like to be someone who can slam the players when we lose and rejoice like a hippy when we win but I just can't do it.

I put Bower close to the top of my pros today.

verbs wrote:

He's getting better with experience :-D

CON

Channel flowering 7 not giving us the song after the game - they set aside three hours for a telecast and can't find room for the song?????

:evil:

Punter22 wrote:

CON

Channel flowering 7 not giving us the song after the game - they set aside three hours for a telecast and can't find room for the song?????

:evil:

PRO

I got it in Brisbane.

Author:	simonverbeek [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:25 pm ]
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Finally!!! PROS 1. Marc Murphy - Immense, some vital clearances in the last quarter, some beautiful passes to............. 2. FEVOLA! 3. Grigg and Bower - Did great jobs on shaw and cloke respectively, ran and created as well. 4. TACKLING - why couldn't we come out with this intensity from round 1. We had grunt 5. Kreuzer - the guy is actually a rover - brilliant Extras - Gibbs was special at times, hadley strong. CONS (i'll have to nitpick to get 5, but still...) 1. Waite's disposal again was poor and cost us. Nevertheless he was great on Rocca 2. Run - we stopped runnning in the last quarter a bit and we generally don't break fast enough when the opposition turn over at our half-back line. 3. Reliance on fev may become an issue - can we win a game if he kicks less than 4? 4. Pfeiffer's disposal must improve a bit. Otherwise he does ok and has a dip 5. The corridor - I just wish we would go inboard a bit more rather than look lateral consistently. Well, it's been a long time coming and we've been through a lot of rubbish, but at least today, those filthy mugs knew, and knew very well, that THEY HAD BEEN PLAYING AGAINST THE FAMOUS OLD DARK BLUES.

Author:	Orangewhip [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:28 pm ]
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4 quarters.

Author:	Juddy&theKruezers [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:34 pm ]
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Pros: We beat the breed. Cons: Who cares.

Author:	verbs [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:45 pm ]
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Pros: Justifies those supporters who put the pros above the cons in the past three weeks, despite the overwhelming negative rubbish served to them. The losing streak record wasn't set. Opposition score was under 100 points. Pratt's speech before the game. Cons: Another meaningless win.

Author:	grrofunger [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:49 pm ]
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PRO: The effort shown today justifies what a lot on TC whinged about the past 3 weeks - when we display effort and apply pressure we win and look very good The kids again stood up CON: we still make a lot of skill errors ( but if we can apply as much pressure as we did today these will get covered up and may get away with them ) This place cant unite - even after a win

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Author:	nightcrawler [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:49 pm ]
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Pros: Bruce used the word "special" in the pre-game.

Author:	Effes [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:52 pm ]
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Pros: Defence all over the ground, the pressure was there. Players weren't allowed to stroll through the middle. The filth actually had more inside 50s. Just shows how good our defence was.

Author:	MarkNo3 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:53 pm ]
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Pro - Jordan Russell played probably his best game for the club. Con - wasnt there

Author:	bondiblue [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:54 pm ]
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Pros we won, and we will improve on this performance Ratts' first win. What a great tactician he is. Murphy seemed like he had more than 22 possessions, such was the quality Gibbs is all class. creates time and space. I like him close to goals Fevola is amazing. What'll he be like when he steps up? Hadley was a player I kept a close eye on. He is one tough cookie. class Judd, Stevens, Carrazzo...mate I could go on. Fisher is back. What a great mark and good link man. I liked some of the 1%ers Setanta did. Bower and Jamo our BIG kids will be stars. Waite did a job on Rocca Krooooooooozer the 3 in one man. Ruck, RR and rover. Cloke fantastic. My favourite ever game from him. Banno played one of those good games Simmo's back We're a good team when nearly everyone is on the park We've still got Walker to add to that premiership line up Cons (not many) Waites disposal on 3 occassions (yuck) Russell wasn't really in the game, Terrible clanger. Thornton can step up the decision making Some of the passing was too short or too high. We can speed up the game a bit whilst still consider Tempo footy as part of our ploy Simmo was quiet in the first half (but great in the 2nd half) Fisher gets brushed a side too easily (not much we can do about that)

Author:	grrofunger [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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MarkNo3 wrote: Pro - Jordan Russell played probably his best game for the club. Con - and he still wasnt much chop

Author:	verbs [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:56 pm ]
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Bower, as I've said in the past week, with more games will only get better and better, and he took another step today. He cops a lot when we don't play well, but once again justified those who look towards the positives week in week out. I'd like to be someone who can slam the players when we lose and rejoice like a hippy when we win but I just can't do it. I put Bower close to the top of my pros today.

Author:	Effes [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:58 pm ]
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verbs wrote: Bower, as I've said in the past week, with more games will only get better and better, and he took another step today. He cops a lot when we don't play well, but once again justified those who look towards the positives week in week out. I'd like to be someone who can slam the players when we lose and rejoice like a hippy when we win but I just can't do it. I put Bower close to the top of my pros today. He's getting better with experience

Author:	verbs [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:01 pm ]
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Effes wrote: verbs wrote: Bower, as I've said in the past week, with more games will only get better and better, and he took another step today. He cops a lot when we don't play well, but once again justified those who look towards the positives week in week out. I'd like to be someone who can slam the players when we lose and rejoice like a hippy when we win but I just can't do it. I put Bower close to the top of my pros today. He's getting better with experience I can't see any reason why he won't play 22 games, plus finals, this year. He's looking the goods and he's only played just over a dozen games.

Author:	Punter22 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:07 pm ]
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CON Channel flowering 7 not giving us the song after the game - they set aside three hours for a telecast and can't find room for the song?????

Author:	jimmae [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:13 pm ]
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Not up for a full list right now but these come to mind: Pros - Grigg played in the attacking half (albeit in a slightly defensive role) - Defensive pressure was fantastic across the ground, and allowed our back six to strut its stuff Cons - Pfeiffer has shocking hand-eye co-ordination or vision because everything is a fingertip snatch/effort or fumbled - Fev didn't kick 10

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Author:	verbs [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:09 pm ]
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Punter22 wrote: CON Channel flowering 7 not giving us the song after the game - they set aside three hours for a telecast and can't find room for the song????? PRO I got it in Brisbane.

Author:	mikkey [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:10 pm ]
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Punter22 wrote: CON Channel flowering 7 not giving us the song after the game - they set aside three hours for a telecast and can't find room for the song????? They showed it in the Social Club (Hasett Room) and the faithfull went off!!!

Author:	Mishgee [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:17 pm ]
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PROS: pretty much what has been said, pressure, attack, etc we flowering WON and did not set that blasted record Our defense - Waite Jamo Banno, T-bird, Bower:D FEVOOOLLAA Our number 1 draftees...murph...gibbs (his TACKLING!!) recovered well from his early mistake and really tore it up C'wood giving us a handful 50 m penalties We did not relinquish the lead once CONS I went with 3 filth supporters and 1 sainter

Author:	Punter22 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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verbs wrote: Punter22 wrote: CON Channel flowering 7 not giving us the song after the game - they set aside three hours for a telecast and can't find room for the song????? PRO I got it in Brisbane. Glad you got it Verbs - with all the crap coverage you get up there. And Mikkey - What I would have given to be at the Social Club today!!!

Author:	Humpers [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:24 pm ]
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Pros - NO PASSENGERS. A very "Geelong Like" performance. - Gibbs, Bower, Jamison and Grigg all growing with confidence. - Our defence all over the field. - Hopefully we demonstrated to the match committee that we don't need Houlihan. - Hadley is tough and classy. What a bargain for pick #52!! Pfeiffer didn't have the best of days but looks a player and is a great "freebee" from the PSD. Cons - We still rely too much on Fev and need a tall option up forward. - Setanta still looks lost at times. - I feel nervous whenever JR has the ball. - Waite's clangers (is forgiven this week however )