Here comes BO!
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| Author: | Melvey [ Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Carlton knew Kreuzer medical risk |
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/c ... 35952.html |
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| Author: | Kouta [ Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:50 pm ] |
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Here comes BO!
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| Author: | Barack Obama [ Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:51 pm ] |
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BlueIce wrote: Here comes BO!
Yes here I am. Cotchin had injury concerns too. So did Judd. In the end you pick who you think is the best available so I'm not complaining about that. HOwever I do have beef. The article states "it can be removed". I'm no medical expert but if it can be removed why don't we remove it? Would seem the logical step to take... |
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| Author: | mikkey [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:00 am ] |
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Barack Obama wrote: BlueIce wrote: Here comes BO! Yes here I am. Cotchin had injury concerns too. So did Judd. In the end you pick who you think is the best available so I'm not complaining about that. HOwever I do have beef. The article states "it can be removed". I'm no medical expert but if it can be removed why don't we remove it? Would seem the logical step to take... Why dont you just read the whole article??? Quote: He said the club never considered sending the teenager for pre-emptive surgery, which was risky, but would keep a close eye on him and act only when he presented symptoms.
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| Author: | Barack Obama [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:01 am ] |
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mikkey wrote: Barack Obama wrote: BlueIce wrote: Here comes BO! Yes here I am. Cotchin had injury concerns too. So did Judd. In the end you pick who you think is the best available so I'm not complaining about that. HOwever I do have beef. The article states "it can be removed". I'm no medical expert but if it can be removed why don't we remove it? Would seem the logical step to take... Why dont you just read the whole article??? Quote: He said the club never considered sending the teenager for pre-emptive surgery, which was risky, but would keep a close eye on him and act only when he presented symptoms. And of course leaving it without surgery has no risks either. |
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| Author: | Rambo Stallone [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:34 am ] |
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Barack Obama wrote: BlueIce wrote: Here comes BO! Yes here I am. Cotchin had injury concerns too. So did Judd. In the end you pick who you think is the best available so I'm not complaining about that. HOwever I do have beef. The article states "it can be removed". I'm no medical expert but if it can be removed why don't we remove it? Would seem the logical step to take... Oh now Barack,even our future guns look like breaking down,we slowly turning into the Richmond of the 21st Century.I hope it isn't 20 years before we make 1 finals. |
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| Author: | Ponkstar [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:01 am ] |
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We can rebuild him. We have the technology.... |
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| Author: | bluey95 [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | What's the recovery time from the surgery? |
If it's only a few weeks, then the minute he walks off the ground after our last game this year we wisk him off to surgery to get the thing removed! Sounds like a common problem though - certainly if he gets OP we should get it sorted then. Rich |
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| Author: | JohnM [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:05 am ] |
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confusingly written article. It states that the lesion can be removed with a 'simple arthroscopy'.. then later states that the op would be 'risky'. which is it? |
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| Author: | Lace Out [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:03 am ] |
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Barack Obama wrote: BlueIce wrote: Here comes BO! Yes here I am. Cotchin had injury concerns too. So did Judd. In the end you pick who you think is the best available so I'm not complaining about that. HOwever I do have beef. The article states "it can be removed". I'm no medical expert but if it can be removed why don't we remove it? Would seem the logical step to take... Once you open someone up, even if the surgery goes to plan, they are never the same. That's why doctors go for the natural healing approach first. |
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| Author: | blu944 [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:07 am ] |
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look, I'm no medical expert, but surely the club should have consulted me on this one. And it's far more conceivable that those 'doctors' would be off the mark on this one as opposed to the journalist who regurgitated the info |
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| Author: | teknodeejay [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:27 am ] |
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JohnM wrote: confusingly written article. It states that the lesion can be removed with a 'simple arthroscopy'.. then later states that the op would be 'risky'.
which is it? They asked this guy first: 
And this guy second: 
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| Author: | Lace Out [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:05 am ] |
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For what it's worth I think he will be fine and missed the game against Richmond so he wouldn't be exposed to the ferals we robbed..... It's not inconceivable after all that they would send a little retaliation Kruezers way to pay Carlton back... Smart move by the club. |
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| Author: | simonverbeek [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:22 pm ] |
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JohnM wrote: confusingly written article. It states that the lesion can be removed with a 'simple arthroscopy'.. then later states that the op would be 'risky'.
which is it? The truth is John that nobody knows yet. I did a quick lliterature search this morn to see what data exists on the topic, and there aren'y many specific trials. The way it works in the medical world is that until someone gets enough of these kids with FAI (>100), divides them into two groups (one having surgery, the other conservatively managed) and follows them up (measuring the success of treatmewnt over about 5 years) - nobody knoes the answer of how to best manage these patients. And even then people will dispute whther the trial was performed well and whether the results are valid. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:10 pm ] |
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Well, if you want to put it one way, any operation is a risky thing. |
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| Author: | Warby [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:01 pm ] |
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Here is more detailed info on the Kreuzer hip problem from Emma Quayle of The Age. http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/i ... 35958.html |
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| Author: | Siegfried [ Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:35 pm ] |
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I too am no expert, however... If what they say is true, and at some point over the next 2 or 3 years, it is going to start causing problems, and an operation needed, then the risk of an operation is going to happen at some point, the only unknown being when. If that is the case, then surely you'd want to do the operation BEFORE any pain (and accompanying 'permanent damage') occurs? I'd be putting him in straight after round 22 too (if not earlier). |
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| Author: | Andain [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:21 am ] |
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Siegfried wrote: I too am no expert, however...
If what they say is true, and at some point over the next 2 or 3 years, it is going to start causing problems, and an operation needed, then the risk of an operation is going to happen at some point, the only unknown being when. If that is the case, then surely you'd want to do the operation BEFORE any pain (and accompanying 'permanent damage') occurs? I'd be putting him in straight after round 22 too (if not earlier). You would hope that the surgeons who told us to wait know what they're doing. |
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| Author: | Car17on [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:53 pm ] |
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teknodeejay wrote: JohnM wrote: confusingly written article. It states that the lesion can be removed with a 'simple arthroscopy'.. then later states that the op would be 'risky'. which is it? They asked this guy first: And this guy second:  and this guy  allegedly
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| Author: | Melvey [ Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:29 pm ] |
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Trent Cotchin and Ryce palmer would be so handy for our side. Kruezer another Fraser sorry to say. |
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