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"Confidence should never be confused with arrogance and Carlton became carried away with itself and its self-importance."



VERY encouraging to hear that sort of talk coming from a potential President of the club.

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My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


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mikkey wrote:
My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


Do you even remember the NAB before Fahour got in there? It was basically non-existent. He has turned that bank around big time.

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mikkey wrote:
My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


Do you even remember the NAB before Fahour got in there? It was basically non-existent. He has turned that bank around big time.


That is stretching things hustla.

NAB has had a strong market position amongst the four big banks for a long long time. Not much has changed in relative terms since Fahour came on board.

I have heard a few stories that actually make me a bit wary of Fahour but at least in rhetoric his tone seems good so far. As always though these guys are answerable to one person and that is the member.

We should always keep our eye on them, it should not be a club of privilege for high flyers with little substance. CFC board positions must be there for merit above all else.

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mikkey wrote:
My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


I think we've agreed on this before mikkey.

Greg, Stephen, Mark, Paul Littman etc will always hold a special place in our history. They were the ones who came to the clubs aid before it was 'cool' to be on our board.

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I honestly believe there is no better Carlton person behind Pratt to take this position. He has a great business mind, has incredible contacts and importantly is a carlton man. I understand and apprecieate the fact that Fahour was 'too busy' in recent years to take a position at the club.


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DeLutis wants soccer team

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Colin DeLutis, 51, a former vice-president at Carlton, is understood to have approached Football Federation Australia with the intention of having sole ownership of a second Melbourne licence if the A-League is expanded to 12 teams in 2010.


Does this mean he's no longer interested in being President of the Carlton Football Club?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:33 am 
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Fahour is believed to have spoken to Pratt about joining the Blues as part of a ticket including Daniel Grollo and Andy Penn, the AXA Asia Pacific chief.

However, a clean changeover remains complicated by the 13-man board, which both Pratt and Fahour agreed should be reduced to a maximum of eight. The board restructure was scheduled to be discussed early this month.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/f ... 95203.html

So who leaves if this is the case?

Current board: Dick Pratt, Stephen Kernahan, Greg Lee, Simon Wilson QC, Adrian Gleeson, Richard Newton, Stephen Molton, Mark Harrison, Ralph Carr, Zac Fried, Ari Suss, Paul Littman and Marcus Clark.

So to fit these new board members on and reduce the board to eight members eight of these board members will have to go. Pratt will likely leave but who would be the other seven? Or prehaps the better question would be who would you keep?

Kernahan is pretty safe I would say, so there are potentially only four other spots for 11 board members.


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hustla wrote:
mikkey wrote:
My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


Do you even remember the NAB before Fahour got in there? It was basically non-existent. He has turned that bank around big time.


John Stewart is the one who turned the NAB around. Fahour assisted him with his direction. I have heard John Stewart speak many times at business luncheons and when he walked into NAB he knew he had to change the culture of that place and he succeeded.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:08 pm 
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The trouble is that John Stewart doest want to be the President of Carlton.

We need to remember that a successful Carlton is an organisation that usually has a strong leader.

For whatever reason, (and I go back to George Harris here) we do seem to work best in this way

Although our success to date has not yet been expressed in the usual way - which in our case would be a 17th Premiership - we need to look no further than our recent off field success that occurred after Richard Pratt became president to see the truth of this for our club.

So in my arrogantly esoteric view, it would be a fitting consolidation of our inevitable progression a 17th flag to have another high profile leader as our next president.

One of the key criterion for a strong leader at Carlton is - success in business.

Whatever the debate about the fortunes of NAB and the degree to which Ahmed has influenced this, the fact is that the NAB is and for the short term at least will continue to be a successful business entity.

So I do suggest that in the absence of a similarly qualified person, Mr Fahour does seem to be the best candidate for this role.

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blueman wrote:
We need to remember that a successful Carlton is an organisation that usually has a strong leader.

For whatever reason, (and I go back to George Harris here) we do seem to work best in this way

Although our success to date has not yet been expressed in the usual way - which in our case would be a 17th Premiership - we need to look no further than our recent off field success that occurred after Richard Pratt became president to see the truth of this for our club.

So it would be a fitting consolidation of our inevitable progression a 17th flag to have another high profile leader as our next president.

One of the key criterion for a strong leader at Carlton is - success in business.

Whatever the debate about the fortunes of NAB and the degree to which Ahmed has influenced this, the fact is that the NAB is and for the short term at least will continue to be a successful business entity.

So I do suggest that in the absence of a similarly qualified person, Mr Fahour does seem to be the best candidate for this role.
A succession plan involving a ticket of Fahour,Grollo and Penn sounds well credentialled. Not to diminish the great work achieved by the present board.


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mikkey wrote:
My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


Agree with you 100% Mikkey. 100%

Where were these businessmen when we were crying out for them 3 years ago. Begging them.

Weak as piss!

Now they're falling over themselves to get on when things are rosy. It's probably good to have em on board still now, but we'll always remember who truly bled blue.

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Just because a suitably qualified leader of our club didnt want or have the credentials to turn us around when we were on our knees shouldnt rule him out of being our next president.

This would be foolish.

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mikkey wrote:
My main problem is that suddenly high profile business people are happy to get on board or even become President.
When we really needed them to take on Smorgon - only about 15 month ago - they were nowhere to be seen.
If I remember right a few people tried for some time to get some of these people to come forward and challenge Graham and help the club - including AF.

At that time he was too busy- but now where everything is running smooth and the future looks bright - they suddenly have time. It's fun to be leading a club thats going well and take advantage of the glamour and the fame.

Not a big fan of people like this. I have far more respect for business people like Greg, Stephen etc who tried and worked their arse off when it was hard and no fun - because they really love the club.....


So if Fahour isn't appropriate to fill the roll when Pratt vacates, because he was either too busy or had other pressing commitments years ago (which he clearly did), then who would be a more suitable candidate for the position?


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blueman wrote:
Just because a suitably qualified leader of our club didnt want or have the credentials to turn us around when we were on our knees shouldnt rule him out of being our next president.

This would be foolish.


Agree 100% blueman.


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