TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Further Cull to our list at the end of 2008

The below players that are highlighted in red will have to show improvement in 2008 or else I believe they will face the risk of being delisted or at least traded.

Does anyone know how many changes need to made to an AFL list at the end of the year? Was it 5 or ?

I think there is a few to cull at the end of 2008 if some dont show some good signs!

Ackland, Cain
Anderson, Joe
Armfield, Dennis
Austin, Mark
Bannister, Jordan
Benjamin, Clint
Bentick, Adam
Betts, Eddie
Blackwell, Luke
Bower, Paul
Browne, Steven
Carrazzo, Andrew
Cloke, Cameron
Edwards, Jake
Fevola, Brendan
Fisher, Brad
Gibbs, Bryce
Grigg, Shaun
Hadley, Richard
Hampson, Shaun
Hartlett, Adam
Houlihan, Ryan
Jackson, Ryan
Judd, Chris
Kreuzer, Matthew
Murphy, Marc
O'hAilpin, Aisake
O'hAilpin, Setanta
Pfeiffer, Darren
Russell, Jordan
Saddington, Jason
Scotland, Heath
Simpson, Kade
Stevens, Nick
Thornton, Bret
Waite, Jarrad
Walker, Andrew
Wiggins, Simon

Kreuzer hasn't done enough.

Ackland, Cain
Saddington, Jason

i hope cloke shows us something, i reckon he's capable, and there's a few big fellas pushing for spots which can only be a good thing

If we were smart we could of traded Judd to North for the 70% shares previously owned by the 3 stooges. Once done we could of merged the two clubs as the Carlton Blues, and at the same time claimed Wells and Judd back, added Jesse Smith, McIntosh, Pratt and Hansen.

Anyway the jury is out on the following this year:

Bannister
Ackland
Cloke
Hartlett
Saddington
Blackwell

Wiggins and Bentick will remain as they are a good type to have as depth players.

ACHILLES wrote:

I think there could quite easily be another clean out. I come up with the following nine quite easily...

Ackland, Cain
Bannister, Jordan
Blackwell, Luke
Edwards, Jake
Hartlett, Adam
Pfeiffer, Darren
Russell, Jordan
Saddington, Jason
Wiggins, Simon

Author:	ACHILLES [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:27 pm ]
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The below players that are highlighted in red will have to show improvement in 2008 or else I believe they will face the risk of being delisted or at least traded. Does anyone know how many changes need to made to an AFL list at the end of the year? Was it 5 or ? I think there is a few to cull at the end of 2008 if some dont show some good signs! Ackland, Cain Anderson, Joe Armfield, Dennis Austin, Mark Bannister, Jordan Benjamin, Clint Bentick, Adam Betts, Eddie Blackwell, Luke Bower, Paul Browne, Steven Carrazzo, Andrew Cloke, Cameron Edwards, Jake Fevola, Brendan Fisher, Brad Gibbs, Bryce Grigg, Shaun Hadley, Richard Hampson, Shaun Hartlett, Adam Houlihan, Ryan Jackson, Ryan Judd, Chris Kreuzer, Matthew Murphy, Marc O'hAilpin, Aisake O'hAilpin, Setanta Pfeiffer, Darren Russell, Jordan Saddington, Jason Scotland, Heath Simpson, Kade Stevens, Nick Thornton, Bret Waite, Jarrad Walker, Andrew Wiggins, Simon

Author:	sideshow bob [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:38 pm ]
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i reckon hartlett and cloke deserve a bit of time

Author:	SparkyBlue [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:40 pm ]
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ACHILLES wrote: The below players that are highlighted in red will have to show improvement in 2008 or else I believe they will face the risk of being delisted or at least traded. Does anyone know how many changes need to made to an AFL list at the end of the year? Was it 5 or ? I think there is a few to cull at the end of 2008 if some dont show some good signs! Ackland, Cain Anderson, Joe Armfield, Dennis Austin, Mark Bannister, Jordan Benjamin, Clint Bentick, Adam Betts, Eddie Blackwell, Luke Bower, Paul Browne, Steven Carrazzo, Andrew Cloke, Cameron Edwards, Jake Fevola, Brendan Fisher, Brad Gibbs, Bryce Grigg, Shaun Hadley, Richard Hampson, Shaun Hartlett, Adam Houlihan, Ryan Jackson, Ryan Judd, Chris Kreuzer, Matthew Murphy, Marc O'hAilpin, Aisake O'hAilpin, Setanta Pfeiffer, Darren Russell, Jordan Saddington, Jason Scotland, Heath Simpson, Kade Stevens, Nick Thornton, Bret Waite, Jarrad Walker, Andrew Wiggins, Simon Hey mate, 2008 hasn't even STARTED yet. Jumping the gun a little aren't we (though I'd pay that it's a low news week). FWIW, your highlighted players seem to be around the mark - though I'd say that Cloke doesn't exactly need to improve. If he plays like he played before he was injured this year he'll get another run. Bannister I really like, serviceable but only making up the numbers - it appears like he JUST dodges the delisting bullet year after year. I think if he could find his niche (specialist tagger, HBF?!) and make a fist of it he'd get another gig - otherwise it seems like he's just there until we can 'upgrade'. Ackland I wouldn't be surprised if he really lifts this year - even though I'm not holding my breath. Remember he is on a the last year of a 2 year contract, with a 3 year optional based on performance. Saddo, like him but as someone else mentioned on here he is very much a one trick pony... and I can see someone like Setanta taking up his role in the backline. Wiggo... well Pagan loved him like a second child, and it seems that Ratts sees value in the Wiggler as well. If he plays a full year we might see him get another contract. Blackwell, Hartlett, Edwards - all on borrowed time. Edwards being the only one that may have a bit of leeway. With have to really show something in 08 to stay. Clint Benjamin, he ain't going nowhere. Just my opinion, but then - are all their contracts expiring at the end of 08??

Author:	blue terrace boy [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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I would take Edwards off that list, and substitute Jordan Russell.

Author:	verbs [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:55 pm ]
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Kreuzer hasn't done enough.

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Author:	Mrs Caz [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:01 pm ]
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verbs wrote: Kreuzer hasn't done enough. QFT...he's areal worry.

Author:	sideshow bob [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:03 pm ]
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verbs wrote: Kreuzer hasn't done enough. bloke above him hasn't payed a decent game for us either

Author:	badboy [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:14 pm ]
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bit harsh on cloke i reckon- how do u guys reckon he'd go at chf? maybe: hff - hartlett /wiggins fish/houla chf - cloke fp's- betts , dunno who else ff - fev ???????????

Author:	SparkyBlue [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:22 pm ]
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Just watch, mark my words - every player listed in red is going to win AA selection or play every game this year and poll well in the Brownlow... ...that would be cool.

Author:	verbs [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:52 pm ]
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I don't get it.

Author:	Bookie [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:33 pm ]
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Judd is contracted for 5 years and can only be traded if he agrees. I agree with most but Jake and Benji would surely be kept. Jake will surprise a few this year I suspect, he was bottom aged when drafted from memory and had a few injuries too. Benji way too early. I like the way Clokey goes about things may also surprise if his shoulders hold out. Ironically no one will retire for a few seasons (due to age) so pressure mounts.

Author:	mjonc [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:46 pm ]
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If we were smart we could of traded Judd to North for the 70% shares previously owned by the 3 stooges. Once done we could of merged the two clubs as the Carlton Blues, and at the same time claimed Wells and Judd back, added Jesse Smith, McIntosh, Pratt and Hansen. Anyway the jury is out on the following this year: Bannister Ackland Cloke Hartlett Saddington Blackwell Wiggins and Bentick will remain as they are a good type to have as depth players.

Author:	Car17on [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:06 pm ]
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ACHILLES wrote: Ackland, Cain Saddington, Jason Reckon Ackland will be shown the door anyway .. how long has he been on the list? Jase probably as well, but you will note that he wasn't a regular on the side until Ratts took the helm .. But definitely Ackland

Author:	sideshow bob [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:09 pm ]
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i hope cloke shows us something, i reckon he's capable, and there's a few big fellas pushing for spots which can only be a good thing

Author:	true_blue3 [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:31 am ]
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it's a make or break year for these guys. (waits on moshe...)

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Author:	blueboysean [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:06 pm ]
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As much as I like Jordan Russell, he may be in a bit of strife if he doesn't pick up the pace just a bit. Who knows, everything will be different next season. Wiggins and Bannister are both fantastic clubmen/trainers, but unfortunately they lack consistency/ability and so may go a similar way as Teague. Benjamin and Edwards I'd like to see have a go in the AFL before cut - I see a place for Edwards especially. Who knows about Cloke, he could be a great player this year. As for Hartlett - we'll see.

Author:	Car17on [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:30 am ]
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sideshow bob wrote: i hope cloke shows us something, i reckon he's capable, and there's a few big fellas pushing for spots which can only be a good thing would it be worth it to try for the other Cloke when his contract is up? I mean, a family connection would do both of them good, wouldn't it?

Author:	Virgin Blue [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Further Cull to our list at the end of 2008
ACHILLES wrote: The below players that are highlighted in red will have to show improvement in 2008 or else I believe they will face the risk of being delisted or at least traded. Does anyone know how many changes need to made to an AFL list at the end of the year? Was it 5 or ? I think there is a few to cull at the end of 2008 if some dont show some good signs! Ackland, Cain Anderson, Joe Armfield, Dennis Austin, Mark Bannister, Jordan Benjamin, Clint Bentick, Adam Betts, Eddie Blackwell, Luke Bower, Paul Browne, Steven Carrazzo, Andrew Cloke, Cameron Edwards, Jake Fevola, Brendan Fisher, Brad Gibbs, Bryce Grigg, Shaun Hadley, Richard Hampson, Shaun Hartlett, Adam Houlihan, Ryan Jackson, Ryan Judd, Chris Kreuzer, Matthew Murphy, Marc O'hAilpin, Aisake O'hAilpin, Setanta Pfeiffer, Darren Russell, Jordan Saddington, Jason Scotland, Heath Simpson, Kade Stevens, Nick Thornton, Bret Waite, Jarrad Walker, Andrew Wiggins, Simon I think there could quite easily be another clean out. I come up with the following nine quite easily... Ackland, Cain Bannister, Jordan Blackwell, Luke Edwards, Jake Hartlett, Adam Pfeiffer, Darren Russell, Jordan Saddington, Jason Wiggins, Simon

Author:	Virgin Blue [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:32 pm ]
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mjonc wrote: If we were smart we could of traded Judd to North for the 70% shares previously owned by the 3 stooges. Once done we could of merged the two clubs as the Carlton Blues, and at the same time claimed Wells and Judd back, added Jesse Smith, McIntosh, Pratt and Hansen. Anyway the jury is out on the following this year: Bannister Ackland Cloke Hartlett Saddington Blackwell Wiggins and Bentick will remain as they are a good type to have as depth players. We already have Pratt

Author:	grrofunger [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:34 pm ]
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Virgin Blue wrote: ACHILLES wrote: The below players that are highlighted in red will have to show improvement in 2008 or else I believe they will face the risk of being delisted or at least traded. Does anyone know how many changes need to made to an AFL list at the end of the year? Was it 5 or ? I think there is a few to cull at the end of 2008 if some dont show some good signs! Ackland, Cain Anderson, Joe Armfield, Dennis Austin, Mark Bannister, Jordan Benjamin, Clint Bentick, Adam Betts, Eddie Blackwell, Luke Bower, Paul Browne, Steven Carrazzo, Andrew Cloke, Cameron Edwards, Jake Fevola, Brendan Fisher, Brad Gibbs, Bryce Grigg, Shaun Hadley, Richard Hampson, Shaun Hartlett, Adam Houlihan, Ryan Jackson, Ryan Judd, Chris Kreuzer, Matthew Murphy, Marc O'hAilpin, Aisake O'hAilpin, Setanta Pfeiffer, Darren Russell, Jordan Saddington, Jason Scotland, Heath Simpson, Kade Stevens, Nick Thornton, Bret Waite, Jarrad Walker, Andrew Wiggins, Simon I think there could quite easily be another clean out. I come up with the following nine quite easily... Ackland, Cain Bannister, Jordan Blackwell, Luke Edwards, Jake Hartlett, Adam Pfeiffer, Darren Russell, Jordan Saddington, Jason Wiggins, Simon pfeiffer ? don't think he will improve the off field stuff? russell will stay fingers crossed for edwards and hartlett wouldnt write them off yet