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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:31 am 
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Considering we won teh seniors as well that year, what an awesome list!!!

1987 Reserves Premiership Team
B: 33 Richard Foster 28 Peter Kenny 5 Steve Da Rui
HB: 10 Brad Shine 13 Mil Hanna 46 Paul Starbuck
C: 41 Peter Rohde 16 Jim Buckley (c) 25 Ian Herman
HF: 39 Mark Williams 51 Gerard Butts 48 Mark Majerczak
F: 57 Phil Poursanidis 34 Darren Ogier 53 Fraser Brown
Foll: 42 Mark Edwards 37 Wayne Harmes (vc) 19 Andrew Phillips
Interchange: 40 Robert Miller 54 Luke O'Sullivan
Coach: Col Kinnear


http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... remiership

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Actually it was back to back, with this list from 86--

i1986 Reserves Premiership Team
B: 13 Michael Aitken 29 Ian Muller 43 Mick Kennedy
HB: 10 Brad Shine 53 Ian Aitken 19 Rohan Burke
C: 12 Adrian Gleeson 5 Ken Sheldon (c) 41 Peter Rohde
HF: 39 Mark Williams 1 Stephen Silvagni 40 Peter Kenny
F: 49 Darren Ogier 22 Warren Ralph 34 Alex Marcou
Foll: 52 Jamie Dunlop 28 Spiro Kourkoumelis 14 Rod Ashman (vc)
Interchange: 42 Neil Gaghan 57 Michael Gallagher
Coach: Col Kinnear

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I don't remember Michael Aitken. Was he a relation of Ian?

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Deano Supremo wrote:
I don't remember Michael Aitken. Was he a relation of Ian?



Without visiting the Blueseum ( :oops: ) from memory Michael Aitken was recruited from Perth (not sure which club) he was a Doctor and he played only one game for Carlton against Footscray at Western Oval back in 86 or 87 (about 187cm) - he was probably too short to play KP and a little slow to be a flanker type.

No relation to Ian Aitken. :wink:

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Deano Supremo wrote:
I don't remember Michael Aitken. Was he a relation of Ian?



I think you'll find he was a doctor who we gave to the bears as one of the players we had to give them. No relation.


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Big Thunderstorm hits Sydney, I hit the computer key and wow the Great memories are pouring through my brain.

Electric Blue, why are the names highlighted?

A few of the players not highlighted were damn good players who were better off at other clubs (with more senior opportunity available to them. But then again why would they give up the honour to play in the Dark Navy Blue jumper.

The '86 team was outstanding.

Outstanding depth. Not only that, from these lists you can see the importance of 10 year players, and seeing names of future stars doing their apprenticeships in the twos in the dark navy blue jumper' sense of belonging.

Bring back the reserves. In a couple of years our own reserves team will have plenty of future stars listed and a few seasoned bodies guiding the way for our up and coming youth.

Interesting to note 2 on the interchange.

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And Des English could have played as well if he hadn't been very ill in hospital...

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One of the worst selection decisions in hindsight was not to play SOS in 1986 GF -killed them in the reserves GF game and whilst still very young would have Been more than handy in the big one
As for Michael Aitken dominatedin the reserves in that year but regrettably we had a number of guys his size AND DIDNT GET THE OPPORTUNITIES he should have
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The Bears had to get ?3 players from each team. We gave michael Aitken as one, and he promptly retired.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:36 pm 
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Michael Aitken was the good looking one.

The Girls loved him and he loved the Girls :roll:

Anyone remember 'The Understand'?


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buzzaaaah wrote:
The Bears had to get ?3 players from each team. We gave michael Aitken as one, and he promptly retired.


Takes the handball receive....

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=At+Brisbane

The other 2 according to the Blueseum were Neil Gaghan and Peter Kenny , although Mick Kennedy is also listed as going to the Bears for 1987.


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Mick Kennedy can't be right as he played in the 1987 GF. I think he went to the Swans later in his career.

Mark Buckley went to Brisbane fairly early in their life, maybe he has been confused with Mick Kennedy?

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Robert Heatley wrote:
Mick Kennedy can't be right as he played in the 1987 GF. I think he went to the Swans later in his career.

Mark Buckley went to Brisbane fairly early in their life, maybe he has been confused with Mick Kennedy?


Yes - Blueseum (this identity) mistake. Site has the details. Mark Buckley it was.


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Wow that 86 side in particular was awesome, no wonder we were so strong in 86,87,88. Makes you wonder how we slid so far in the late 80's early 90's with some of the younger guys coming through, Silvagni, Hanna, Brown, Gleeson, Phillips, O'sullivan etc.

I love when people bring up things like this :)


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Robert Heatley wrote:
Mick Kennedy can't be right as he played in the 1987 GF. I think he went to the Swans later in his career.

Mark Buckley went to Brisbane fairly early in their life, maybe he has been confused with Mick Kennedy?



I'm pretty sure that the three players that we "gave" Brisbane were:

- Peter Kenny
- Michael Aitken
- Bruce Reid


Neil Gaghan, Mark Buckley and I think Stuart Glasscott (David's brother) went up to Brisbane at later stages to play senior games.

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Question...in our trophy cabinet we have possession of the 1986 Army Reserve Trophy. It has tiny plaques on it which have the previous years winners, yet stops at 'Carlton F.C 1986', which leads me to believe there was only one of these trophies in existence. But if my memory serves me correctly - the Army Reserve kept sponsoring the Reserves competition after 1986...(pretty sure we won it in '91 with David Glascott as Captain?)

Anyway - it's just one of the many interesting trophies we have in the trophy cabinet which is on display for all to see...although when I was at George Harris' funeral yesterday - i did sneak downstairs to check on one thing and although it's pretty tight...we do have room for one more premiership cup - but we'll have to squeeze them all together on that bottom row. It's something St Kilda never have to worry about!


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bondiblue wrote:
Outstanding depth. Not only that, from these lists you can see the importance of 10 year players, and seeing names of future stars doing their apprenticeships in the twos in the dark navy blue jumper' sense of belonging.

Bring back the reserves. In a couple of years our own reserves team will have plenty of future stars listed and a few seasoned bodies guiding the way for our up and coming youth.


right on bondi - bring back the twos !


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bondiblue wrote:
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Electric Blue, why are the names highlighted?

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Istarted to pick out the VERY good players.....

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Brently8 wrote:
Wow that 86 side in particular was awesome, no wonder we were so strong in 86,87,88. Makes you wonder how we slid so far in the late 80's early 90's with some of the younger guys coming through, Silvagni, Hanna, Brown, Gleeson, Phillips, O'sullivan etc.

I love when people bring up things like this :)


yeah, me too.

is there anywhere i've missed that us old fellas can yarn about the old days/teams/players ?


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AGRO wrote:
Robert Heatley wrote:
Mick Kennedy can't be right as he played in the 1987 GF. I think he went to the Swans later in his career.

Mark Buckley went to Brisbane fairly early in their life, maybe he has been confused with Mick Kennedy?



I'm pretty sure that the three players that we "gave" Brisbane were:

- Peter Kenny
- Michael Aitken
- Bruce Reid


Neil Gaghan, Mark Buckley and I think Stuart Glasscott (David's brother) went up to Brisbane at later stages to play senior games.


http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... ael+Aitken

Agro, good point. The Aitken biography indicates that Aitken and Reid were given to Brisbane, and Brisbane complained. The biography indicates only 2 players were handed over.

The Gaghan biography also indicates that Gaghan was sent to Brisbane by the Blues, making a third.

Will check with the site historian to try to clarify this across each of the biographies.

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