Just listening to ABC774, where they are reminiscing on past finals, in this instance reliving the 1999 prelim final.

Sellars MacLure mentioned that he hates Sheedy (I love Sellars ). And on questioning, recounted that back in 1974 in only his second game which ws against Richmond, with the play 100m away, Sheedy said look over there, pointing to the play, then decked MacLure when he looked. He said that under the current rules and tribunal system, Sheedy would never have played another game.

This in my opinion is core Sheedy behaviour, and illustrates clearly why some people have no respect for him and continue to consider him a sniping hypocritical thug.

Just heard it also.Typical Sheedy.Listening to that 99 Prelim`was fantastic.
Would be great to get Sellars back at the club in some official role.

GET OVER IT! FFS Headplant - you're 51!

Sheeds played in an era where being a little sniper was a part of the game. You should know this - you were 18 in 1974.

We had our own snipers back then and I could go on and on - but Kevin Sheedy has done far more good for the game than bad and will forever be remembered as a Richmond hard nut as a footballer and a true ambassador for the game as a coach.

Never Ever get over it!!
Sheedy coached using SHEEDY Tactics throughout his career!


Sheedy is the reason we hate them and he built it into them to hate us!!

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Which means I have seen 18 more years of him than you, Dr S!

History and psychology shows that people don't really change much over time. SHHH! is corrrect.

I am only 49 and I hate the sniping little prick - always will! Thats the way it is, and I reckon the way Sheedy would want it - so long as I never take this hate into the real world.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Then on that basis - Heath Scotland shouldn't be playing at the club next year! Yippeeee!!!

I'm with Headplant and Mark Maclure with regards his views on Sheedy and I aint over it and I know Robert Walls views Sheedy in a similar light.....Sheedy and Neil Balme are right on the top of the scumbag list and when they lose out at anything I rejoice.....

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Don't get me wrong - I don't love the guy! I do think though that in general - he's done a lot of great things for football - namely for Victorian country football and also indigenous footy. I think most people would agree with me.

As for his days in a Richmond jumper - well i agree with Mark MacLure here - but times changed...Sheeds got older and wiser and changed as a coach - but we hated Essendon* long before Sheeds arrived there!

But I understand where you're coming from. My wife asked me last week why I hated Hawthorn so much. I said that their coach used to play for North Melbourne and did one of the most dispicable acts I've seen on a footy field in what was an exhibition match in 1987. I have never forgiven that little f___ and never will...Ian Aitken (who was Rookie of the Year) was never the same again after that.

Unfortunately it's not on youtube like this classic bit of footage!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aAelHoN1b10

V Waite & J Waite.

1972 Second -semi replay. Tigers obviously through to GF. Big Nick missed a shot late in the game. Sheedy ran up and ruffled his hair and laughed at him. I thought "you'll pay for that, you b-------" and he did. 1972 GF goalkickers - Nicholls 7 ------------------.

Beautiful!!!!

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Great to see Sellers get stuck into Sheedy. 2nd biggest prick ever to go around a footy ground. The number one also being a current premiership coach. No respect for either of these turds at all, and even less respect for Clarkson because of that gutless, pissweak behaviour in London. At least Matthews could actually play the game when he decided to play it fairly.

Sheedy is, was and always has been about what is best for HIM. His ability to embrace indigenous football was basically a cheap way to increase membership for the Essendon* football club, and as a result, enable him to point to this as another part of his footballing legacy. Certainly didn't do anything out of altruistic reasons!

Worst Sheedy memory - 1984 game at Princes Park - sitting behind the Essendon* i/c bench under the old press box. End of 1/2 time - he comes over with his two i/c players (yes.. on the opposite side of the ground to the coaches boxes - points to a young player (forget who it was) and shouts. "You play your @#$%&! arse off against this bunch of p-o-o-f-t-e-r-s"


Forget all the sniping in the 70's. I was too young to see the really bad stuff... but this sticks in my mind as the biggest cauliflower act I have seen from a coach.

The fact they over-ran us made it doubley hard to take.

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It be great to see Mark Maclure back in the board or somewhere in Carlton,the guy was a legend.I still remember that 1986 grand final when he was Captain and hoped he Captain us to a flag would've been great to see him off as Captain in a flag in his first season as well Bruce Doull and Des English last game.

I don't think it's any surprise that Essendon* has been involved in almost all the massive brawls of the past twenty years. As you play so shall ye coach.
Having said that, Ian Collins was a dirty sniping little bastard and as already poated here, Vin Waite was no angel and Peter Hudson often got caught betweent him and Wes Lofts.
I will never forgive Richmond as a team nor Sheedy and Balme for the 1973 GF loss.

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Before anyone tries to defend Sheedy further watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idwSFx7O9bA&NR=1

If you don't remember this thug was picked in this game for this exact purpose

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Ahh remember it well, and it was beautiful. In the first quater of the GF Sheeds was about to pick up the ball, saw Nick out of the corner of his eye, fumbled and I think Keogh got the ball and goaled.

Sheedy is a sniping little prick. He played against a young Bulldogs player very early in that players career. The player ended up with two black eyes courtesy of a behind play unprovoked hit. It might have been rough and ready in the 70s but king hitting young players from behind when the ball was miles away was ordinary then as it is now.

The Robbie Walls 'snipe' was to give a brutish CHB a belt to give himself 2 yards on the lead knowng he would get belted when he took the mark. Sheedy was a nasty little man, as a coach he wanted all the credit and as a player he was a thug, which is pretty easy standing the rovers in the back pocket.

I am glad the old bastard is out of a job. Nothing but a thug on the field and carried on like a mug off it.

Acting old and sageful doesnt take away his past

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thanks for that; you got me started all over again.

martians huh?

There is only one word for that: Thug

And I remember all that Sheedy hype about wallis leading up to that incicdent.

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[quote="Elwood Blues1"]I'm with Headplant and Mark Maclure with regards his views on Sheedy and I aint over it and I know Robert Walls views Sheedy in a similar light.....Sheedy and Neil Balme are right on the top of the scumbag list and when they lose out at anything I rejoice.....[/quote]

Me too

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My second fav topic after AFL Bashing. Sheedy bashing!

Hes the king of self promotion. Walked into a super side in the 80's. Oversaw salary cap rorting as bad if not worse than Carltons (funny how they admit to being over in 1991, 1992, 1994 - oops, what happend in 1993????? )

I always chuckled at how he kept getting this tag of building the baby bombers etc. Funny because the 'baby bombers' he built in 1993 went on to win as many flags in the next 14 years as the old blokes from Carlton who they beat.

He was and excruciatingly still is just a 'dial a quote' for lazy journos. He should have been hung out to dry for the throat cutting episode where he basically threatened a West Coast player who it was proved had done nothing wrong.

He copuldn't cope from 2000 on when the game passed him by and Leigh Matthews became the thinker/innovator etc.

Hes a sad old man who rest assured, will not grow old gracefully.

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