Player development

JohnM · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:33 am

I know there are many threads with this as a recurring theme, but hearing Gavin Wanganeen speak about Port Adelaide's approach to player development last night further reinforced just how critical this aspect of football has now become.

He said that the Power have been aware of the importance of investing heavily in developing their young players for years now - and that Chocko was a zealot in ensuring the kids get huge amounts of attention.

They travelled to Man U last year to learn more about their development programs, and according to Wanganeen, their young guys have all benefitted greatly from tailored skills sessions (and plenty of them).

Port Adelaide also adopt an 'academy' style education program, teaching the kids the theory of the game at the highest level.

I'm sure Pratt, Swann and Icke are across this - but I'd really like to think we're on the road to AFL best practice in player development.

Anyone know what's on the agenda for 2008?

As we all know - absolutely no point in having top draft picks if you don't have a system to develop them properly.

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

Last night Ratten mentioned that there would be two development coaches at the club next year.

tommi · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:48 am

Woohoo..............

i don't mean to ummm......blow me own trumpet but-ahhhhh............
there's every charnce...well............there's.......every charnce.....
icouldbeinlineforoneofthosepositions...............!

there i said it............!

kindest regards tommi

chubbyruss · **Joined:** Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:59 am **Posts:** 8631

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

Synbad · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:20 am

chubbyruss wrote:

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

In he big scheme of things AFL is really at the bottom end of professional sports.
With a pool of about ten million following it... its way behind other sports.
Its a sporting backwater that is slowly coming to a more professional approach.
Still miles behind.

Still.. they started work on he gym this week....so that is going to help things.

The Academy will be set up and it will make a huge difference to player development.
I also want to see our kids developed as civialians aswell in every facet of personal development a Carlton player needs.

bmaurizio · **Joined:** Thu May 05, 2005 10:49 am **Posts:** 1623

Synbad wrote:

chubbyruss wrote:

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

In he big scheme of things AFL is really at the bottom end of professional sports.
With a pool of about ten million following it... its way behind other sports.
Its a sporting backwater that is slowly coming to a more professional approach.
Still miles behind.

Still.. they started work on he gym this week....so that is going to help things.

The Academy will be set up and it will make a huge difference to player development.
I also want to see our kids developed as civialians aswell in every facet of personal development a Carlton player needs.

One of the more insightful and intelligent posts this year.
Weâ€™re getting there, one would say we need 2 to 3 years before we can truly raise our heads.
Dick Pratt is the catalyst , he is catapulting the Mighty Blues forward and will succeed.
We have done our time, how black it was.
Ciao

SA Blue · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:25 am

chubbyruss wrote:

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

It would have been nice to have the money to do this in the last 5 years!

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17893

SA Blue wrote:

chubbyruss wrote:

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

It would have been nice to have the money to do this in the last 5 years!

Its great to be able to point the finger but the fact is we had the lowest spending on football department in the league. Not Pagan or Sticks fault.

mjonc · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:12 pm

buzzaaaah wrote:

SA Blue wrote:

chubbyruss wrote:

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

It would have been nice to have the money to do this in the last 5 years!

Its great to be able to point the finger but the fact is we had the lowest spending on football department in the league. Not Pagan or Sticks fault.

I thought we had one of the highest?

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:27 pm

We need Rod Ashman

SHHH! · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:44 pm **Posts:** 890

Ashman is already at Carlton. Paid by Pratt . Unsure of official title.

cj69 · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2098

Great news. I have been asking for this for a longtime. This is as important a position in any club and an area we have been let down badly.

RoK · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:31 pm **Posts:** 295

Jarusa wrote:

Last night Ratten mentioned that there would be two development coaches at the club next year.

Good to know finaly we are doing what needs to be done.

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:12 pm

SHHH! wrote:

Ashman is already at Carlton. Paid by Pratt . Unsure of official title.

Is he full-time though? I knew he was attached to us, but thought it was only on a part-time basis because of his other commitments?

Wolfe · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:31 pm

Also Ratten is about to depart AUS to do a tour of all the major world clubs so he will be out to check out key overseas clubs which is probably a good thing for his own presonal improvement

4everBlue · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:51 am **Posts:** 442

It's good to see that we are finally getting serious re development and facilities in order to keep up with the modern professionalism of the game.

Swann, and to a lesser extent, Pratt are just as important as any player that we will pick up in the next few drafts because they have a refreshing no compromise approach to make everything at CFC the best their is.

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:22 pm

buzzaaaah wrote:

SA Blue wrote:

chubbyruss wrote:

Is'nt it now so obvious that Pagan & Sticks have had their heads in the sand the last 5 years. They have cost us big time.

At least now Pagan has gone :-D

It would have been nice to have the money to do this in the last 5 years!

Its great to be able to point the finger but the fact is we had the lowest spending on football department in the league. Not Pagan or Sticks fault.

Everything is Pagan's fault.

Everything!

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:52 pm

Donstuie wrote:

SHHH! wrote:

Ashman is already at Carlton. Paid by Pratt . Unsure of official title.

Is he full-time though? I knew he was attached to us, but thought it was only on a part-time basis because of his other commitments?

Full time.

true_blue3 · **Joined:** Tue May 16, 2006 8:57 pm **Posts:** 6836

is there any reason why my post was deleted?

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:24 pm

Not deleted...split from this topic and moved to Recruitment.

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