TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Parkin's recipe: how many ingredients do we have?

Parkin uses Sydney's playing list over the same three years and Brisbane Lions' depth of talent during the premiership years of 2001, '02 and '03 to illustrate his point about list management.

"You need two decent ruckman, two decent insiders, two decent carriers and two players who can close down," he said.

"And if you're really well developed, you have one to replace (in each area) if they're not up and going. If you don't have depth, you don't win premierships."

id say fev, murph, stevens, simpson, carrazzo.

I'd like to know how many ingredients he left us with when he quit coaching....

[assuming we trade pick 3 to Port so they can get Ebert]

winfieldblue wrote:

[assuming we trade pick 3 to Port so they can get Ebert]

Why do we want Ebert? 190-some games behind him .. not that many in front of him .. would the same impetus behind recruiting Mick Martin be behind recruiting Ebert? Or would this be on the basis of axeing Ackland and getting a real ruckman to teach the likes of Landcruiser, Zacky, and Hammer?

Author:	LosAzules [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:17 pm ]
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In today's age in an article on the Saints, Parkin stated the following: Quote: Parkin uses Sydney's playing list over the same three years and Brisbane Lions' depth of talent during the premiership years of 2001, '02 and '03 to illustrate his point about list management. "You need two decent ruckman, two decent insiders, two decent carriers and two players who can close down," he said. "And if you're really well developed, you have one to replace (in each area) if they're not up and going. If you don't have depth, you don't win premierships." How many of these "decent" players do we have going forward? IMHO this question goes to the heart of our list management and what we should be thinking of come draft time.

Author:	Fevolution [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:38 pm ]
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id say fev, murph, stevens, simpson, carrazzo.

Author:	blueblues [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:10 pm ]
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Fevolution wrote: id say fev, murph, stevens, simpson, carrazzo. I'd say all of those guys except for Murph. He will be a great player but he hasn't been so great this year compared to the others (except for Stevo).

Author:	winfieldblue [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:21 pm ]
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Hopefully in two years two decent ruckman...Kreuzer, Aisake, Hampson two decent insiders...Murphy & Gibbs two decent carriers... Scotland, Stevens, Simpson & Shaun Burgoyne [assuming we trade pick 3 to Port so they can get Ebert] and two players who can close down...Walker & Wiggins

Author:	blueboysean [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:23 pm ]
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Ruckmen: Aisake, Hampson, Jacobs. Insiders: Gibbs. Carriers: Simpson, Houlihan, Scotland. Either: Murphy, Walker, Stevens, Carrazzo, Jackson. Taggers: Bannister, Anderson, Walker. + possibly Kreuzer + Masten/Cotchin/Ebert/Palmer/Morton. I'd say we WILL fit his recipe, but currently we are relying too much on Murphy, Walker and Gibbs.

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Author:	Deano Supremo [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:22 am ]
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I'd like to know how many ingredients he left us with when he quit coaching....

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:59 am ]
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Deano Supremo wrote: I'd like to know how many ingredients he left us with when he quit coaching.... Good point, Deano.

Author:	nytdog [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:11 am ]
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Ruckman: Kreuzer, Aisake, Hampson Insiders: Murphy, Gibbs , Carrazo Carriers: Stevens, Simpson, Walker Stoppers: We really don't have any. Anderson may get that role, but we need some more development in this area. Bannister is pretty good at this role but only on certain match ups. And he is no certainty to be retained on the list. Wiggins isn't a tagger. Russell showed glimpses but I highly doubt it fits his style of play. Bentick is too slow. Although I think Parko left out an important category... Goal kickers: Fev, Waite, Fisher

Author:	hannahadhair [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:32 am ]
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What happened to the premierships are built from defence forward? We need relable kep posi backmen.

Author:	Donstuie [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:20 pm ]
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Exactly. The midfield will look after itself (especially now that it looks like Kreuzer is on his way to PP), and our forwards have been our most impressive feature this year. To be competitive, we need to stop giving up 20+ goals a game. Do this, and that's a good portion of the battle won.

Author:	Car17on [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:45 pm ]
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winfieldblue wrote: [assuming we trade pick 3 to Port so they can get Ebert] Why do we want Ebert? 190-some games behind him .. not that many in front of him .. would the same impetus behind recruiting Mick Martin be behind recruiting Ebert? Or would this be on the basis of axeing Ackland and getting a real ruckman to teach the likes of Landcruiser, Zacky, and Hammer?

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:52 pm ]
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p(12)terg wrote: winfieldblue wrote: [assuming we trade pick 3 to Port so they can get Ebert] Why do we want Ebert? 190-some games behind him .. not that many in front of him .. would the same impetus behind recruiting Mick Martin be behind recruiting Ebert? Or would this be on the basis of axeing Ackland and getting a real ruckman to teach the likes of Landcruiser, Zacky, and Hammer? Read it again, p12.....

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