TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Round 19

Warby wrote:

Conversely to you all; I thought Bannister beat Cornes all day as he did earlier in the year.....Ackland is improving each week, and plays the loose man well; and IMO, Saddington played OK too.

We're all so quick to lavish praise on the kids and give no praise to the others like Scotland et al.

I agree entirely with your thoughts.
Acland played his best game for the club. Finally played with some intensity and passion why has it taken 18 rounds???
Bannister was great and Saddington was good as well. Hopefully both are retained for next season.
Grigg and Bower I think will get a lot of self belief from their performances today. Both got better as the game went on. Hopefully they can now believe that they are up to AFL standard.
Gibbs looks great in the middle. Him and Murphy will be unstoppable in 2 or 3 years time especially if Hampson can come on in the ruck.
Simpsons leadership is outstanding his 2nd, 3rd and 4th efforts sets the example for the kids. Compare his efforts to Lance Whitnall who always has his hands on his hips.

Author:	simonverbeek [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:06 pm ]
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We've got the honourable loss down to a 'T' (for Ta....)! PROS (mostly senior rather than younger blokes today) 1. Fev - star and will play for CFC next year according to our CEO 2. Simpson - I cannot give enough praise. Has raised a notch since the captaincy. A sure thing for VC under stevo next year. 3. Scotland - played well 4. Fisher was unreal and can kick (on both feet?!) 5. Jackson and Jammo - might be players CONS 1. Russel - a few Waite-like half efforts, couldn;t get near it. 2. Ackland - my favourite bit is when he doesn;t jump and gets the free. Give me Kreuzer! 3. We could beat Essendon* or Melbourne the way we are playing 4. Leg speed - we're slow (are cotchin or Ebert quick?) 5. 1st half was embarrasing - too much chat-back and hopeless turnovers 3 MORE TO GO! (It won't be easy though, thought I saw a limp on Fev ) BTW, why weren;t we wearing navy.

Author:	dane [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:12 pm ]
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Pros. - The 3rd quarter - Simmo's efforts all day - The continued rise of Jamison - Fevola handing it out. - Fisher's marking ability. - Murphy looked very good Cons. - SKILLS - Thornton gifting a couple of goals. - We lost. - Russell looked a bit lost all day. - Not enough Gibbs on the ball. - We couldn't match up on Westoff. - Cornes walked off the ground.

Author:	Effes [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:13 pm ]
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Fev turned it around after looking like he was going to spit the dummy Simmo's workrate Workrate of team improving after looking like it would turn into a 20 goal loss Grigg getting his hands on the ball Jamison's performance, he is quick and can play on talls and smalls

Author:	Fabulous [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:15 pm ]
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PROS Ratten teaching players how to rectify there mistakes Fisher's accuracy! Simpson is leading the team by example (many 2nd and 3rd efforts) The fight back FEV 4 goals PP still alive and one game closer CONS Bad skills and concentration lapses

Author:	frank dardew [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:19 pm ]
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Pros A great fighting effort by the boys and could easily have been blown away Brad Fisher another great performance -left foot goal and baulk sublime A glimpse of midfield of the future Gibbs and Murphy The captain kade simpson another terrific game Hollywood Fevola for his efforts Games into Jamison grigg bower blackwell Setanta Saddington and Bannister may be on the de-list list but gave some experience and poise Centre square work after half time Ratten appointment soon Still in line with PP Cons The umpiring in the first half -murdered us That Cornes guy is an arse Port flat track bullies but about as good as the Carringbush Disposal -clangers cost us in the end Will beat Dons and DEES with that effort Injury to houlihan

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Author:	dane [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:23 pm ]
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Author:	choo [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:26 pm ]
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CONS same old same old Thornton see my post from last week EXACTLY the same gifted 3 goals in last quartwer 1st mistake anyone can make 2nd poining at teammates not guarding the mark Ebert to Wilson 3rd arguing with field and boundary umpires Ebert to Lade Don't tell me he doesn't deserve a spell

Author:	danii [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:29 pm ]
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Pros what a great comeback!!!! carlton is becoming a very entertaining team Fisher - did he have super glue on his hands today or something. Walker - I love this guy he's just so agro Murphy - great as always Cons Skill errors Skill errors Skill errors ACKLAND ACKLAND ACKLAND Thornton keeps on stuffing up.

Author:	79Vintage [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:41 pm ]
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PROS Made a contest of it Jamieson - reminds me of Karl, I hope that's where the comparison ends Grigg & Bower starting to get a feel for it - hopefully like Kade Simpson did. Murphy did well. Fisher's four quarter effort Jackson was thereabouts Scotland across half back Ratten's gameplan shows it can work, now for a four quarter effort CONS Last quarter fade out Saddington and Thornton's disposal Clangers in the first half PRO or CON Not sure if Fevola's four goal quarter is a PRO or a CON. In a top four team fevola would kick a ton a year. We'll win one or two by the end of the year

Author:	thedominator [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:47 pm ]
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PROS: Simpson-was sensational Fish-gee he'd be close to AA half forward Fev-stepped up when needed Kids-esp Carlos, Jammo, Jacko, Grigg, Bower Great way to lose gain Ratts has made a difference PP still alive Cons: Ackland-even though he tried hard in the last. He's not a ruckmen which basically begs the question. What is he then???? Ist Half Cornes is the biggest idiot I've ever seen play football. Takes after his old man. Thornton-did we flower up re-signing him last year or what? I'd so dearly love to beat the scum this week. But then again we'd probably be screwing them more by losing...

Author:	Warby [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:06 pm ]
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Conversely to you all; I thought Bannister beat Cornes all day as he did earlier in the year.....Ackland is improving each week, and plays the loose man well; and IMO, Saddington played OK too. We're all so quick to lavish praise on the kids and give no praise to the others like Scotland et al.

Author:	Jez1966 [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:10 pm ]
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Pro's A great fight back Fev's third quarter Simmo, a great captains game Fish, great hands Eddie again played well on the ball Jacko, Jammo, Gibbsy, Murphy in the second half, Griggs and Bower, and Carlos I may get shot down here but I thought Sugar and Saddo had pretty decent games. Cons Umpire Chamberlain, what a flower tool Cornes #1 (kane) biggest actor for a free kick, even bigger than Rivaldo. Fev hits him in the chest goes down with hand on the head. Cornes #2 (chad), Fev should have given him one after the game.

Author:	Ponkstar [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:12 pm ]
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Gotta love Simmo flying the flag when Fev got put down by a shirt front. I love the look of Jamison - he has a real fluency in his movements and great poise with the footy.

Author:	Rhys26 [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:17 pm ]
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Warby wrote: Conversely to you all; I thought Bannister beat Cornes all day as he did earlier in the year.....Ackland is improving each week, and plays the loose man well; and IMO, Saddington played OK too. We're all so quick to lavish praise on the kids and give no praise to the others like Scotland et al. I agree entirely with your thoughts. Acland played his best game for the club. Finally played with some intensity and passion why has it taken 18 rounds??? Bannister was great and Saddington was good as well. Hopefully both are retained for next season. Grigg and Bower I think will get a lot of self belief from their performances today. Both got better as the game went on. Hopefully they can now believe that they are up to AFL standard. Gibbs looks great in the middle. Him and Murphy will be unstoppable in 2 or 3 years time especially if Hampson can come on in the ruck. Simpsons leadership is outstanding his 2nd, 3rd and 4th efforts sets the example for the kids. Compare his efforts to Lance Whitnall who always has his hands on his hips.

Author:	camel [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:51 pm ]
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Ackland played well against the Power last time around too. In fact, I'd rate that game much higher than today's effort. mrs camel reckons we need to get our opposition in Port jumpers every week. Other pros... We didn't roll over and die. Cons... Our turnovers in the first half, and for most of the game, were bloody woeful. It seems it is now illegal to attempt to spoil an opponent in a marking contest.

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Author:	Warby [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:28 pm ]
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Rhys26 wrote: Warby wrote: Conversely to you all; I thought Bannister beat Cornes all day as he did earlier in the year.....Ackland is improving each week, and plays the loose man well; and IMO, Saddington played OK too. We're all so quick to lavish praise on the kids and give no praise to the others like Scotland et al. I agree entirely with your thoughts. Acland played his best game for the club. Finally played with some intensity and passion why has it taken 18 rounds??? Bannister was great and Saddington was good as well. Hopefully both are retained for next season. Grigg and Bower I think will get a lot of self belief from their performances today. Both got better as the game went on. Hopefully they can now believe that they are up to AFL standard. Gibbs looks great in the middle. Him and Murphy will be unstoppable in 2 or 3 years time especially if Hampson can come on in the ruck. Simpsons leadership is outstanding his 2nd, 3rd and 4th efforts sets the example for the kids. Compare his efforts to Lance Whitnall who always has his hands on his hips. And I agree with yours ! .....it's a different Carlton Team we're seeing now.....unleashed and freed up and will keep improving.

Author:	troybond [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:16 pm ]
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Eddie Betts was sensational in the middle today! He keep us going in the 2nd and 3rd term Well done Ratts

Author:	blue_blood3 [ Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:24 pm ]
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Pros -Fish -Fev -Jammo and Jacko -Bryce in the middle -Shauny Grigg getting the ball -Scotland -Simmo - being captain has really improved him Cons - Ackland - how can he still be in our best 22????? - Will most likely beat the Dons and the Dees at this rate -Chad Cornes wasn't carried off in a stretcher after a brawl with fev...did anyone hear him after the game talking about fev...arse...I'v hated him for years but now ever since he didn't shake banno's hand after he killed him I detest the guy - 3 whole weeks till we can get Kreuzer...Goodbye Ackland