TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Good Luck Denis.

Thanks for the memories...actually maybe not.

But I do believe that Denis gave his all, his failure was not due to lack of trying and his support of some players was amazing, this is despite words to the contarray.

I had the advantage of being in prematch sessions a couple of times and a couple of chances to sit in the coaches box during games and Denis was always fair and encouraging.

Wrong man at the wrong time. He was really happy to be at Carlton when he first arrived but the rug was pulled out from him from day one.

I wish him well, and trust now that we all have what we want that all true blues treat him with some decency now.

I wish him well, and trust now that we all have what we want that all true blues treat him with some decency now.

Author:	Electric Blue [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:11 pm ]
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Thanks for the memories...actually maybe not. But I do believe that Denis gave his all, his failure was not due to lack of trying and his support of some players was amazing, this is despite words to the contarray. I had the advantage of being in prematch sessions a couple of times and a couple of chances to sit in the coaches box during games and Denis was always fair and encouraging. Wrong man at the wrong time. He was really happy to be at Carlton when he first arrived but the rug was pulled out from him from day one. I wish him well, and trust now that we all have what we want that all true blues treat him with some decency now.

Author:	ryan2000 [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:17 pm ]
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Ditto. Best of luck Denis. You'll get through it.

Author:	mikkey [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:18 pm ]
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Great post. I am happy he is gone, a change was overdue - BUT the stuff that was posted about him here sometimes was just unacceptable and a lot (like relationship to the playing group) was untrue. I also met DP a few times and he is a decent bloke and did not deserve some of the stuff posted here.

Author:	4everBlue [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:22 pm ]
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Electric Blue wrote: Thanks for the memories...actually maybe not. But I do believe that Denis gave his all, his failure was not due to lack of trying and his support of some players was amazing, this is despite words to the contarray. I had the advantage of being in prematch sessions a couple of times and a couple of chances to sit in the coaches box during games and Denis was always fair and encouraging. Wrong man at the wrong time. He was really happy to be at Carlton when he first arrived but the rug was pulled out from him from day one. I wish him well, and trust now that we all have what we want that all true blues treat him with some decency now. I agree with the wrong time bit, but disagree with the wrong man part a bit. At the time of his appointment and the stuff that happened afterwards, he was probably the right man for the job in tough times. However, IMHO, he has led the way to his own downfall by refusing to be creative until it was too late.

Author:	4thchicken [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:24 pm ]
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Electric Blue wrote: I wish him well, and trust now that we all have what we want that all true blues treat him with some decency now. I wholeheartedly agree - we should treat all ex-players, coaches and officials with respect after they leave the club - no matter how they performed at the time. It would be nice if that occurred however given past history I dont really see it happening. Good luck to him with whatever the future holds

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Author:	Jarusa [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:27 pm ]
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Great post EB, well said.

Author:	frank dardew [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:27 pm ]
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Excellent post Electric and just one example of a number of posters that make me continue to frequent this site. Agree wholeheartedly with your comments best regards Frank

Author:	danii [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:33 pm ]
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Good luck Denis. All the best.

Author:	camel [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:36 pm ]
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Electric Blue wrote: Thanks for the memories...actually maybe not. But I do believe that Denis gave his all, his failure was not due to lack of trying and his support of some players was amazing, this is despite words to the contarray. I had the advantage of being in prematch sessions a couple of times and a couple of chances to sit in the coaches box during games and Denis was always fair and encouraging. Wrong man at the wrong time. He was really happy to be at Carlton when he first arrived but the rug was pulled out from him from day one. I wish him well, and trust now that we all have what we want that all true blues treat him with some decency now. Fair call. Good post EB.

Author:	SA Blue [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:41 pm ]
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Good threar EB. DP gave his all and in the end something had to give. Well done to Pagan and all the best for the future.

Author:	Number19Tram [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:44 pm ]
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Excellent post EB. Thanks Dennis- I hope that you get to receive (and hear) some genuine thanks in due course

Author:	Taff [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:46 pm ]
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Yes good post EB. It appears that he was not suited to managing the demands of coaching a young developing group in the 21st Century. In five years time it will be interesting to see how these past five years will be perceived. I wish him well - as a coach there are only two aspects that are definite, the day you are hired and the day you are fired (or leave of your own volition when you know what the alternative is!)

Author:	BIBI01 [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:58 pm ]
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good luck to Denis thankyou for building the foundation on which our next premiership will be built on. when we win no 17 my 1st beer will be for Carlton FC, my second beer will be for Denis Pagan. All the best to Denis, it's a shame things have panned out the way they have. IMO Denis has handled himself well unlike some at the club in his 5 years, but that is all in the past now.

Author:	Dominator_7 [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:09 pm ]
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Good Luck Den Den.. good to see you had the b*lls to front the media. That gained you some respect from me for being man enough to do that.

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Author:	dannyboy [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:20 pm ]
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Yes I also would like to thank Denis. he could not get the job done but not through lack of effort.

Author:	Fevolution [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:26 pm ]
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Good Luck Denis, you did all you could, your a very good coach but there nothing more you could do for the blues. You have built this list to be a top side in the future, and we thank you for that. I was a big fan of denis but there was nothin more he can do. THANKS DENIS AND GOOD LUCK

Author:	stretford blue [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:32 pm ]
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Classy effort at the press conference Dennis. Good luck with everything in the future and thanks for all your efforts.

Author:	jimmae [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:34 pm ]
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Cheers Denis, when push came to shove you stepped aside when requested, and in the mean time you gave your all. Best wishes in your future endeavours .

Author:	buzzalenko [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:37 pm ]
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thanks for your efforts, denis not sure anyone else could have done much more, and I am sure you did your best I wonder who TCers will blame when things go wrong now...I guess Lance is still on the list atm......

Author:	DesEnglish [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:37 pm ]
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Thanks for youe efforts Denis. While you were not ulimately sucessful you'll always be a part of Carlton's future sucess. Adam