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BRENDAN Fevola was suspended for a week for glaring at coach Denis Pagan after being dragged in a match two weeks ago.

The wayward forward, who was stood down by the club after he petulantly gave away two 50m penalties against Fremantle at Subiaco, conceded his attitude was wrong from the start of the game.

"That's true, that's the reason why (I was stood down) - and obviously I gave away the 50s," Fevola said on The Footy Show last night.

"There was probably a build-up from the last couple of weeks, giving away some frees and stuff, so the footy club said have the week off, get the head right.

Bloody sub editors!

Fev states (although in a bit of a roundabout manner) that it was the culmination of a whole series of events regarding his onfield behaviour.

Yet the subeditor gives everyone the impression that the suspension was only due to this one incident.

Bloody hack!


He mentioned that Fev said there was a build up. What he wrote was an accurate account of what Fev said.
What more do you want?
Do you want him to make up stories about him getting pissed at casinos because he didn't get the nod as captain? :lol:
The truth is he got suspended for @#$%&! all based on what the club and player have stated.

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Great pick up PopEye !!

Through no fault of his own, Fev is very much an individual. Thats the Pagan influence right there.

Pagan applied the same pressure choke at the Kanags with Wayne Carey, whereby Carey was it and abit na dthe remainder of the team played 2nd fiddle.

That particular game plan worked during the 90's but got found out early 00's, thus Pagan, Carey & Kanags fell apart. You would have thought Pagan would get over that mentality.

Lets all hope that Pagans successor becomes Fevola's coach and NOT his buddy.



Didn't Carey and the Kangas fall apart because Carey was caught up to the apricots :?: :)

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I think you could say that Fev failed to tell the whole truth on the footy show. The players the coach, the administration and MC know the truth and over time little bits will leak out and probably next year we will hear more.

I think you could also say that either or both the coaching panel and Fev will not be at the Blues next year. He has been a very good player for our club and it is unfortunate that the situation was allowed to deteriorate to the extent it did.

Swan and Icke have now been in place for a few months and have identified the issues and started to implement change both on and of field. The club is starting to get stronger and the addition of some more new blood this year will further build our base.


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Fev banned for glare at Pagan

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BRENDAN Fevola was suspended for a week for glaring at coach Denis Pagan after being dragged in a match two weeks ago.

The wayward forward, who was stood down by the club after he petulantly gave away two 50m penalties against Fremantle at Subiaco, conceded his attitude was wrong from the start of the game.

"That's true, that's the reason why (I was stood down) - and obviously I gave away the 50s," Fevola said on The Footy Show last night.

"There was probably a build-up from the last couple of weeks, giving away some frees and stuff, so the footy club said have the week off, get the head right.

Bloody sub editors!

Fev states (although in a bit of a roundabout manner) that it was the culmination of a whole series of events regarding his onfield behaviour.

Yet the subeditor gives everyone the impression that the suspension was only due to this one incident.

Bloody hack!


He mentioned that Fev said there was a build up. What he wrote was an accurate account of what Fev said.
What more do you want?
Do you want him to make up stories about him getting pissed at casinos because he didn't get the nod as captain? :lol:
The truth is he got suspended for flower all based on what the club and player have stated.

As I said, I'm criticising the subeditor, not the reporter.

The subeditor would have written the title:

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Fev banned for glare at Pagan

Which is blatantly untrue.

And maybe the opening paragraph:

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BRENDAN Fevola was suspended for a week for glaring at coach Denis Pagan after being dragged in a match two weeks ago.

Which again, is a complete and utter lie, and is hack journalism.

Do you really think that Fev was suspended for @#$%&! all?

I reckon that Fev was suspended for issues that predate 1998.

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Gee the Fev haters will look silly soon.

Also, there is a remarkable difference to the judicial/criminal system that applies to all victorians.

Seems as if Fev did not do a one percenter in 1998 it must be held against him forever (compounding), but these things must be forgiven for all other players on the list.

Hypocrisy is an evil bitch.

Just remember that.

Oh that's right, some of you have the memory of a goldlfish for certain things! 8)

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Gee the Fev haters will look silly soon.

Also, there is a remarkable difference to the judicial/criminal system that applies to all victorians.

Seems as if Fev did not do a one percenter in 1998 it must be held against him forever (compounding), but these things must be forgiven for all other players on the list.

Hypocrisy is an evil bitch.

Just remember that.

Oh that's right, some of you have the memory of a goldlfish for certain things! 8)

I don't hate Fev, he's one of (if not the) best full forward's we've ever had; I just hate his petulant, childish attitude.

I would love nothing more than Fev kicking a bag in our next premiership.

However it is my opinon, and my opinon alone (not that of the club, nor any other poster AFAIK) that Fev was suspended for issues whose origins predate 1998 (not occured in 1998).

I don't see any hipocracy in my statements.

If you believe that there is, could you please point them out to me so that we may discuss this issue further?

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Spot on Jarusa HERE HERE. People forget very quickly. It was not long ago everyone was calling for Stevos head. Now they want him to be captain and realise how much we miss him.


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Spot on Jarusa HERE HERE. People forget very quickly. It was not long ago everyone was calling for Stevos head. Now they want him to be captain and realise how much we miss him.


Spot on, the sheep need someone to blame with Stevens and Lance out of the side and Fev's attitude is an easy target.

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Spot on Jarusa HERE HERE. People forget very quickly. It was not long ago everyone was calling for Stevos head. Now they want him to be captain and realise how much we miss him.


Spot on, the sheep need someone to blame with Stevens and Lance out of the side and Fev's attitude is an easy target.


Maybe if Fev changed his attitude he'd no longer be an easy target.

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Bingo.

I think a lot of people in this thread (on both sides of the argument) are missing the point. No-one here WANTS to get rid of Fev. The best case scenario for everyone no doubt would be for Fev to kick 70-80 goals a year, give about 20-30 goal assists and lay about 30-40 tackles, while setting an example of professionalism for the younger guys who look up to him. Based on what some people have written here its made to sound as though we'd blindly throw him out the window like we would a cheque from tattslotto, giggling like schoolgirls. This IS NOT the case.

Fev needs to change his attitude. If he doesn't, he's no good to us. Simple as that. It's been said many times over, teams with players like that don't win premierships. Just take a look at Freo.


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Bingo.

I think a lot of people in this thread (on both sides of the argument) are missing the point. No-one here WANTS to get rid of Fev. The best case scenario for everyone no doubt would be for Fev to kick 70-80 goals a year, give about 20-30 goal assists and lay about 30-40 tackles, while setting an example of professionalism for the younger guys who look up to him. Based on what some people have written here its made to sound as though we'd blindly throw him out the window like we would a cheque from tattslotto, giggling like schoolgirls. This IS NOT the case.

Fev needs to change his attitude. If he doesn't, he's no good to us. Simple as that. It's been said many times over, teams with players like that don't win premierships. Just take a look at Freo.
Tell that to the Eagles have done a good job of winning a flag with half a team of bad eggs.


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I'm talking on-field though. Say what you want about Kerr and Cousins (half a team you say? Who else is there?) in their civlilian lives, but when they get on the football field they lead from the front and few teams were more united than they were as a unit (not so much now, as evidenced by their recent poor performances). Either the players know to keep their emotional baggage away from the field of play, or they have good management (ie coaches) keeping their heads on straight while they're on the field. I couldn't imagine Woosha treating those guys any differently to anyone else in the team, and if he does he's a fraud.


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Spot on Jarusa HERE HERE. People forget very quickly. It was not long ago everyone was calling for Stevos head. Now they want him to be captain and realise how much we miss him.


Spot on, the sheep need someone to blame with Stevens and Lance out of the side and Fev's attitude is an easy target.


Maybe if Fev changed his attitude he'd no longer be an easy target.


Yeah yeah and if Lance had a body like Kouta or if Stevo was as hard as Archer bla bla bla. It's the same shit every year here with people looking for a scapegoat.

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Hard to argue with that logic :roll:


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Hard to argue with that logic :roll:


Sorry mate but it was Stevens last year, Campo the year before, Lance the year before that etc. It's just getting old.

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I'm talking on-field though. Say what you want about Kerr and Cousins (half a team you say? Who else is there?) ....


Fletcher, Lynch, Braun, Embley, Chick, Selwood, Gardiner (who was on their list in the premiership year), Edwards (who was at the Eagles when his name was brought up in the drug discussion) ... are the ones that spring immediately to mind.

Cousins and Kerr are not just repeat offenders but regular offenders ... and there was the 8 or so players who are said to have admitted using drugs, not to mention the ones that didn't admit it to woosha.


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Jarusa wrote:
Gee the Fev haters will look silly soon.

Also, there is a remarkable difference to the judicial/criminal system that applies to all victorians.

Seems as if Fev did not do a one percenter in 1998 it must be held against him forever (compounding), but these things must be forgiven for all other players on the list.

Hypocrisy is an evil bitch.

Just remember that.

Oh that's right, some of you have the memory of a goldlfish for certain things! 8)


And while we are talking cliche's..... 'some people can't see the forest for the trees'.

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Sorry mate but it was Stevens last year, Campo the year before, Lance the year before that etc. It's just getting old

Campo was just like Fev, whinging and complaining and not providing that leadership the younger guys needed. His decision to take the money from the scum I think proves those guys right. As for Stevo, I agree that it was silly to talk of getting rid of him. Yes, he sometimes wasn't a team player, but this season he looked as though he had learned from his mistakes, and we want him back because we think he's not got those leadership qualities we wanted.

As for Lance, well... ;)

Fev IS NOT a scapegoat. He's had a million chances to improve his behaviour and hasn't done so. Therefore, he needs a kick in the arse, and if he's not prepared to pull his finger out and give his all like all these kids who look up to him, he's more trouble than he's worth.

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I'm talking on-field though. Say what you want about Kerr and Cousins (half a team you say? Who else is there?) ....


Fletcher, Lynch, Braun, Embley, Chick, Selwood, Gardiner (who was on their list in the premiership year), Edwards (who was at the Eagles when his name was brought up in the drug discussion) ... are the ones that spring immediately to mind.

Cousins and Kerr are not just repeat offenders but regular offenders ... and there was the 8 or so players who are said to have admitted using drugs, not to mention the ones that didn't admit it to woosha.


Fletcher: Off-field (od'd)
Lynch: Did what?
Braun: Dropped an f-bomb AFTER the game was already won
Embley: Did what? He got drunk didn't he?
Chick: Didn't shake the hand of a kid AFTER the GF was won
Selwood: Said something incredibly stupid, but has been fine since
Gardiner: Was in the WAFL the time they won the flag. Is now gone. Problem solved.
Edwards: Pardon my ignorance, but who?

These are all stupid actions and certainly deserve punishment of some kind, and each of them WAS punished straight away. But they are isolated incidents and most occured outside of game-time, and we've not heard a peep from any of them since. Fev on the other hand, has been a serial offender on and off the field since 2000 and he needs to be told enough is enough. Saying that its alright for Fev to act like a baby just because this guy or that guy does it is a weak argument.


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Donstuie wrote:
Fletcher: Off-field (od'd)
Lynch: Did what?
Braun: Dropped an f-bomb AFTER the game was already won
Embley: Did what? He got drunk didn't he?
Chick: Didn't shake the hand of a kid AFTER the GF was won
Selwood: Said something incredibly stupid, but has been fine since
Gardiner: Was in the WAFL the time they won the flag. Is now gone. Problem solved.
Edwards: Pardon my ignorance, but who?


i thought it better to PM the answer to that ...

Donstuie wrote:
These are all stupid actions and certainly deserve punishment of some kind, and each of them WAS punished straight away. But they are isolated incidents and most occured outside of game-time, and we've not heard a peep from any of them since. Fev on the other hand, has been a serial offender on and off the field since 2000 and he needs to be told enough is enough. Saying that its alright for Fev to act like a baby just because this guy or that guy does it is a weak argument.


many of these weren't sanctioned is the reality, and is a disgrace seeing as the club singlehandedly bought the game into disrepute ... but that is another issue that invloves me getting heated about $1 million and 3 years of draft picks ...

I'm not saying Fev's actions are ok, just that the Eagles are worse (at face value) and that they have been in two grand finals with this type of 'terminal cancer'. i am not in favour of throwing out out A grader for little return ... its a philosophy that has worked for the Eagles!!! shit - Angwin wouldn't be dropped from the Eagles squad if their past record is anything to go by.


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Fevola gets chance to prove his mettle

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/f ... 38224.html

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