Imagine the upoar and abuse that would have been happening against Fevola on this board if roles had been reversed with what young Kennedy did in the second quarter.

Double standards.

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I also noticed that as well.

Interstingly when Fev snapped a goal in the last qtr, not one Carlton player congratulated him. No-one went near him

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yeah they did

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"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev

Fevola's shooting for goal from set shots has been ordinary this year. A big part of our demise.

I've mentioned this before in previous posts but since this kid just won the NAB rising nomination this week, it shows I may be onto something.
Fev for Westoff plus a pick or Fev to Freo Pavlich to Port and Westoff plus pick to Carlton....mark my words this kid will be the next James Hird of the AFL.

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Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

Jars I didn't see the game. What did JK do in the second?

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Had a shot on the run and missed from about 25-30 metres out on a bit of an angle. He had Fev alone in the goalsquare for the handball.

No big deal, just a young bloke backing himself, might have been nice if he had handballed but nothing to hang the guy over.

However, if it had been Fev in the same situation with Kennedy in the square this thread would be ten pages longer.

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Hmm...maybe Jars...I did't see it, only heard on the radio, but would it be fair to say that JK's shot was a higher percentage shot than Fev's bomb from 50-55 (whatever the distance was)?

48 m, on the run, with no one open.

He was dead in front to. You'd back him to nail it 8 times out of 10.

I've never seen Kennedy nail a goal on the run, he was under a little pressure and Fev was wide open. 50/50 call.

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I'd take Fev from 60 anyday of the week.

Jarusa is right Fev got a raw deal from the team, the commentators and half the fans over that non issue. I've seen him do the same thing a number of times in his career and when he puts it through everyone loves him.

I didn't here anyone complain that he should have passed after this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLm3T-CRmw

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What about this one where he didn't even look to pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9D1Jnmpl-0

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Fev wasnt "wide open" ..... watch the game again.
He probably would have kicked it but most would have had a shot from there.
Especially him.

You'll have to show me some examples of Fev goaling with a torp to make an informed decision.

That is what we're talking about is'nt it?
Fev fluffing a torp from 60 out compared to Josh having a shot from 40 out?

50/50? I dont think so.

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In the game against the Crows, Murphy kicked long to a 3 on 2 contest and ignored Lappin who was running past unchecked with a paddock in front of him.

Marc didn't get the Fev treatment.

Fev rarely needs to kick a torp but I've got footage of Stevo and Lappin if you want? I bet you were elated when those two monster goals went through.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

25-30m out with an easy shot v. 80m torp. Mmmm let me see ....

Also, Fev wasn't in the goalsquare, he was about 5m in front at a 45deg angle.

But anyway, after one quarter of chasing he was back to his old tricks, he only got that goal in the last coz he was lazy. Leopard doesn't change his spots.

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Yes I was.

I've got footage of hundreds of AFL players kicking goals from where Kennedy was.
They're about as relevant as your footage in this case.

Zero.

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Jeez the IQ of this forum has fallen lately.

I never compared Fev's 60 metre torp attempt with Kennedy's shot.

All I said was if the roles had been reversed in the Swans game with the Kennedy missed shot there would have been people here calling for Fev's head.

Please read it more slowly this time so you have some chance of understanding this most complex argument.

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No kicking the shit out of Fevola for trying something that has brought the fans through the gates for a century is just poor form. Maybe Betts should hand back the car he won last year because he should have done the team thing and put the ball at the top of the square. Maybe Gary Ablett should call up the dozens of team mates he ignored over his whole career.

Of course I know you all love this part of the game and only brought out the Fev torp incident as a reason to shitcan him because there always needs to be a tall poppy scapegoat around here.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Firstly I doubt too many would not want Fev to have a shot from 30 if not under pressure and same with JK. If you can't kick a goal from 30 under little pressure then your chances of hitting a closer target aren't great either. But as you well know Jarusa this is not about Fev making one selfish or wrong decision, or one error. It is about our highest paid player who has been on the list since 1998 and still doesn't do near enough of the things every player on the list is expected to do. He wasn't dropped for one incident. He was dropped for many over a long period and as a last resort. Everyone should read Caz's views on the topic. He is probably the only one on here with genuine inside info and he seems very comfortable with the decision.