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 Post subject: So how long is TOO long?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:23 pm 
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We keep hearing about how far we've got to go, and how many years it will take, blah blah blah. But if you had to think of a "deadline" of sorts for results to come our way, what would that deadline be? And by results, I mean finals.

For me it would be 2011 at the latest. If we're not fighting for finals contention by this time, I'll be seriously pissed.


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The most important deadline is the one that sends Den Den out da door ...


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2009 is the year we make it to the finals. Hopefully with Den Den as coach.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:32 pm 
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BlueMark wrote:
2009 is the year we make it to the finals. Hopefully with Den Den as coach.


It's one or the other, Mark :wink:


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0477 693755...............

that's the number of my EX..........she'll give
you the arnswer.........!


kindest regards tommi

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tommi wrote:
0477 693755...............

that's the number of my EX..........she'll give
you the arnswer.........!


kindest regards tommi

Got a fancy sports car or motorcycle to go with that?

By 'that' I of course refer to your flamboyant personality.

Come on, it was poor form, even for you...

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OI............

that was GOLD baby......................bloody gold........!


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agree...gold

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0477 693755...............

Rang it....he sounds like a good bloke.

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muzza wrote:
0477 693755...............

Rang it....he sounds like a good bloke.

M


Yeah, rang him too - he gave me some fashion and decoration advice...


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tommi wrote:
0477 693755...............

that's the number of my EX..........she'll give
you the arnswer.........!


kindest regards tommi


GOLD from POTM.

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Ooops............

i probably should have checked the number i made
up first..............!

but YOU know what i mean...........!


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BlueMark wrote:
2009 is the year we make it to the finals. Hopefully with Den Den as coach.


:shock:

Are you serious?? (About the "Hopefully with Den Den as coach")

I thought you couldn't stand the fella.


By the way, 2008 for me - IMO we're a lot closer that many people think. This is as long as there are no serious injuries, ala Stevens... we will have a decent, developed list next year, but still no depth whatsoever.


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This year we will finish 2nd last
In 2008 we will just miss finals
In 2009 we will make finals and play a bit part.
In 2010 we will be top 4 and we wont have anymore passengers on the list!

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We need to push for finals in 2008. By 2010 I am expecting a top 4 finish. We need to raise the bar and have the belief we can achieve. Otherwise we are kidding ourselves.

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If we didn't have that 100 point defeat by Hawthorn, nor the heavier losses to West Coast, Geelong and to a lesser extent the fadeout against the saints I would jump on the 2008 bandwagon.

However, those losses question our mental toughness to a point, or is it the match committees selection for those games that was out?

Another cleanout and draft years out and we must be in the 9-12 bracket next year without any bigger losses.

Then I would suggest 2009 would be our finals year.

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2008 to 2010 may be finals - but most likely 2009.

Denis wont be coach of the next Carlton side that makes the finals, but will be an interested observer.

Whitnall, Kouta, Saddington, Teague, Bannister and Lappin will all be gone.
Mclaren and Ackland probably gone as well.

There may well be some kind of a trade of who we consider now to be an untoucheable player - but although this may appear to be a poor descision at the time, it will be the best for our club.

The trade will be for a well developed midfielder, for whom a sacrifice in terms of players and/or picks will be made.

Bryce Gibbs has a stellar year in 2009. Murphy will be captain.

We will have a young and very clever coach at Carlton, who will work wonders with our young side.

This person will be an excellent communicator and will have a knack of drawing match winning performances from the players in a way that will be reminiscent of Barassi, but without the Barassi temper tantrums and vitriol..

The Carlton players will truly love to play for the new coach, and initially will be besotted with him in a football sense, idolise him when he is appointed.

And this will be shown in some stirring wins, that are hard fought, with a great deal of passion - many will say that we are playing above ourselves - and in a sense we will be, but you dont make the transition to becoming a finals side by a series of uninspiring performances.

We will have an attacking game plan as we do now, but we will have a lot more runners in the side - which will translate into a lot more wins than at present. We will tend to run in waves - and our style of play will be compared with the mosquito fleets we have had at Carlton in days gone by.

We dont win an awful lot of our matches, maybe 12 or 13 - but at that time there is an evenness in the competition which means that only 11 or 12 wins will seee you in the eight, but more importantly, percentage is a much more critical factor than now..

Anderson will be a star player. Bower will also be in the side - defying Denis's view that he isnt good enough.

The ruck will be addressed, and we will have a serviceable rather than good ruckman.

Our strength will be midfield and Forward line, Defense will be good, but nowhere as good as it has been in Carlton teams of the past.

Having said this, a feature of our running style of play will be forward attacks launched from defence, quite often resulting in a score.

Our wins in what will be a fateful year will be exciting, with more losses than wins occurring in the first half of the season, while our new coach finds his feet and effectively learns on the job. He starts to hit his straps towards the end of the season.

This will be a very fortunate year for Carlton - we will be blessed with few injuries during the year and our draw will be quite a favourable one.

It is also possible, maybe because of a war during that time, that some matches might be again held at Princes Park.

Many Carlton premierships have been won in the shadow of significant military conflict, and it may well be that such a thing is again repeated in the not too distant future.

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Quite prophetic. Looking forward to finding this saviour of a coach, and Anderson being a star. Is there a biblical figure you could symbolise, blueman?


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I vote for this thread to be archived, so that in a year or two we can look back at our predictions and compare.


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