Geez , what an inspirational line from Pagan , really knows how to get the best out of his troops.

Stirring stuff Dennis , thumbs up.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332859

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It sounds pretty bad but we are only getting one side of the story. Maybe Glenn is being a little sensitive??????

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Manton
Hulme
Beaumont
McGrath
French
Harford
McKernan.

Ratten, Bradley, Mckay, Hickmott didn't exactly leave on good terms either.

Hulme's mum said that DP was mean to him!

Is that supposed to be funny?

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:rofl:

Gee, if that's the worst that Pagan said to him, he's got an amazingly thin skin

Pity he decided not to play on. His career was undoubtedly on the rise by the time of his "retirement" He could have been one of the games greats if he'd stayed on. I wonder why he didn't do a Campo and go to another club to show us what we were missing?

Oh, that's right - he couldn't go back to Sheedy. Did Sheeds say something nasty about his bolts?

Pity he couldn't play under a gentleman like Clarkson. But then again, his short temper and attacks on journos might just tell us how he is behind closed doors at Hawthorn. Remember the time when he spent half-an-hour yelling at his players while the press waited outside for a scheduled press conference at training ... and he'd left a door or window open so they could hear what was going on

You mean his Mum didn't say "Poor old Darren did his knee and he was never right after that. He wanted to go on, but he'd lost his zip so the coach had to exit him out"

If Pagan said anything beyond the pale to Hulmey, he would have had a broken jaw

I remember thinking that when DP first came to the club that he would have no emotional attachments and would make some hard decisions that needed to be made.

He may not have won any friends but I think that holding on to some of these players would have prolonged our renaissance.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

That says it all about our fearless leader doesnt it

What were those comments Beaumont made to Kangas players back then re Pagan ?

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Davies?
Campo?
Bryan?

And you could have almost added Thornton & Russell to that list also?

Lappins relationship with DP has always been 'iffy' if the rumours are anything to go by.

And then there is Barry Mitchell.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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Interesting that only one of those names mentioned went on to play anywhere else (McKernan, who we got a good trade for).

Maybe their careers were over?

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Beaumont went to Hawthorn didn't he?

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Yeah true, forgot about him. Two out of the list then. They hardly set the world on fire either.

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... and also two on that list are now assistant coaches to someone who according to the people of TC 'didn't exactly leave on good terms'.

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Mick Martyn's career was over too but he still managed to get to 300 games....

C'mon guys....imagine the things Sheedy, Lethal, Barassi, Blighty etc. have said to players over the years!!

You can't really expect guys who have been dumped by a coach to say "Gee, what a great bloke!". Seriously.

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I just remember what the little prick did to Ian Aitken 20 years ago......grrrrr!!

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Love tells me I am everything
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... and 'The Dominator' fixed up the little sniper straight afterwards

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Is there a 'care factor' widget we can get going on this site?

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

What's a widget?

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Who cares?

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