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Should we of kept Deluca and put JK in the bullants?
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Author:  Goltzenberg [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Should we of kept Deluca and put JK in the bullants?
Hi Guys

You probably think this is a bit crazy but should DP of coaxed Deluca out of early retirement so that we had a CHF that could take a decent amount of marks and kicks around the field?

Rather then have JK in the team just to get experience

ITs obvious that JK isnt doing aswell as Deluca last year

Just a thought, we miss a CHF this year badly
Author:  The Shag [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:28 pm ]
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delucas retirement was the best thing since pornography was invented...
Author:  blueboy8 [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:29 pm ]
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We could of used him as a back up ruckman also.

Deluca wasn't the best footballer going around but at least he was able to take marks around the ground and presented well.
Author:  Jarusa [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:32 pm ]
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NO
Author:  blueboy8 [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:36 pm ]
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We needed a poll YES :)
Author:  Indie [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:40 pm ]
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The behind-the-scenes manoeuvreings may have been more complex, but the stated reason why he retired was that he wanted to focus on his career as an accountant. Apparently, he's employed by one of the big 4 firms, and may well have needed to devote himself full-time to the job to advance.

Maybe there might have been some pressure on him to retire, but I don't think so. The retirement of French and the injury to McLaren probably mean that Pagan was caught off-guard, particularly as Bryan was causing problems too.

Whether Pagan wanted Deluca to stay or not, it was probably out of his hands.
Author:  CarltonClem [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:46 pm ]
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Indie wrote:
The behind-the-scenes manoeuvreings may have been more complex, but the stated reason why he retired was that he wanted to focus on his career as an accountant. Apparently, he's employed by one of the big 4 firms, and may well have needed to devote himself full-time to the job to advance.



Deluca's no longer at the big 4 firm he was at. I don't know whether he was laterally hired by another or he's gone somewhere else, but he's no longer at the big 4 firm he was at.
Author:  Hoggy33 [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:46 pm ]
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Are we really doing THAT badly to even consider this? :shock:
Author:  Jarusa [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:50 pm ]
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He does all his accounting jobs in duplicate.
Author:  mjonc [ Wed May 09, 2007 9:56 pm ]
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Oh my god :shock: Did i just read what i think i did? :lol:
Author:  blueboy8 [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:00 pm ]
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Hoggy33 wrote:
Are we really doing THAT badly to even consider this? :shock:


Our ruck situation at the moment is very bad It isnt Clokes fault he is injured but he was only temporary. Ackland was our prized recruit we paid big money for for three years.

Is Ackland a better player then Deluca? Is Ackland a better ruckman then Deluca?

Deluca was pushed, he didn't put the club to ransom he left on his own accord.
Author:  Teen Spirit [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:00 pm ]
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i'd have preferred Barnaby French to stay than Archie...but yeh Archie seemed to come into his own a little last year, its a shame he had other ventures outside footy cuz i always liked the guy, i'll remember him spending 45min talking to me at the 2004 Best And Fairest while he was on crutches, discussing his brother Fabian's draft hopes at the time...i was only 15 at the time and wasnt 'in the loop' so to speak, but my cousin was playing under 18's with Fabian and i knew of him, and that was enough for Archie to take time out to have a conversation. He, Glen Bowyer and Bret Thornton were 3 of the nicest guys imaginable.


Nic
Author:  dannyboy [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:09 pm ]
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up we wouldn;t have say Joey either..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Author:  Goltzenberg [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:19 pm ]
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Sounds stupid but archie was the heart of the club :P

Atleast he can ruck, and i would prefer him over Ackland who is slow as turtle out there. Cant win a tap and doesnt get many possessions. Gives away too many frees

Deluca would fit nicely in the ruck this week
Author:  Jarusa [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:22 pm ]
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Goltzenberg wrote:
At least he can ruck


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Author:  Goltzenberg [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:25 pm ]
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Jarusa wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
At least he can ruck


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Well l cant see him doing much worse then cloke n ackland in the ruck
Author:  Teen Spirit [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:28 pm ]
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yeh lets bring back Ricky Mott!


Nic
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:31 pm ]
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As camelboy says...

think, then post.
Author:  Goltzenberg [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:41 pm ]
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Digby was always solid aswell


awww the good old days , archie and diggers :P
Author:  blueman [ Wed May 09, 2007 10:41 pm ]
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Even if we had Deluca in the side there would be very little chance of salvaging much of 2007 at this point.

If we lose to Collingwood - as I believe will happen - there will be a real sense after this round has been played that 2007 is nothing more than a year in the wilderness for Carlton - but with the sweeteners that we won another pre season cup and than also that we have done most of the painful rebuilding of the player list follOWing our now quite distant draft penalties time.

As good as his footballing talents are or were, Deluca is still a link to a past time that we need to forget about and instead, concentrate on our new and very young players that are learning their craft.

There is far more future potential in what we have right now than what we had in 2004 when we were just outside the 8.

Even though many have quite justifiable reservations about JK, He is still young and needs more time to develop - so still has potential, wheras Deluca is a link to what we need to forget about.
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