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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:09 pm 
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Although many supporters appear frustrated with Kennedy, he's only in his second year and plays in probably the most difficult position on the ground in centre half forward. He will be a gun in my opinion, and dominate matches. But obviously at the moment he isn't ready yet, he still needs three years before he is ready to truly dominate in the way Fevola can. So during this learning period for him, I think it is vital he plays in the team and the role I think he should have is to crash packs. He should go for everything unless Fevola is leading. The aim does not always have to be to take the mark, but rather to ensure the ball spills to our forwards' advantage. I think this would be a better approach than trying to get him to play like a true Centre Half Forward for the time being.


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Kennedy in my opinion he have a long way to go and if he don’t start playing good footy then I cant see why he cant do his apprenticeship with the Bullants, this way you are giving the likes of Edwards, Hampson, Hartlett etc. a chance to have a go in the Carlton side.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:43 pm 
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if he could get near the footy maybe.
This kid is a long long way off playing AFL. Should be in the VFL.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:54 pm 
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JK is far too good for the VFL (can you imagine the delivery he'd be getting?). He needs to work on his leading - particularly up the ground and his kicking into the forward 50 - I'm of the opinion that Simmo, Murph, Lappin or Gibbs should be running past for the handball...right now - I'd line him up on the edge of the square and have him leading up the wing and being a target in the middle....he'll be fine - those of us who have witnessed him train know that it's only a matter of time before he himself gets his timing right and starts to split packs and come up with the grabs. He's in the ones to stay IMHO - hopefully the selectors feel the same way.


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:32 pm 
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Kennedy should be in the VFL unless theres no one worthy of replacing him. But if there is someone worth replacing him then they should get a shot at the AFL.

Kennedy is going to be great one day but at the moment hes only getting around 5 possessions a game. You get experience by getting the ball. Drop him in the reserves for a game or two and get his confidence up and he will get going.

AT the moment he makes leads and they dont kick the ball to him or he isnt in the right spot. Getting the ball in the reserves will get him more experience. At the moment he just runs around in circles

Alot of his problem is the game plan doesnt suit a CHF. You have Fevola leading out at the 45m line and JK 55m out, who would you goto? 9 out of 10 times they kick to Fev out of position.


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We watched him on Saturday. He appears over anxious and seems to lead far too early. He still has heaps to learn and CHF is probably the hardest position on the field to play.

I also think if he does the wrong thing he is worried Denis will sit him on the pine.

Last year in the VFL he was a class above most forwards in the comp. He will be great given time & a fair go by the coach

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Leave him in the seniors.

He already tears it up in the reserves, he averages 3 goals a game there. He is too good a player, he will learn very little playing in the reserves.

Won't be long before he is averaging 2+ goals and directly contributing to just as many. Bit of patience people.

He will be a very dependable CHF, just needs to notch 50 games of experience up as soon as possible.

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Totally agree jarusa. Look I don't follow the stats as closely as you do, but I reckon he's been getting a progressively better run on the field with every week. We know he can carve it up in the bullants, and then he comes back and gets splinters.

If his filed time is steadily increased, and our run through the midfield continues in the same vain as last week, he'll learn a lot about the game at the fastest and toughest level. Better in my opinion than playing at Cramer street.

Granted, I don't watch the bullants games on anything but the ABC, but given the game reviews it really doesn't sound like there are any other big bodied like for like players 'bashing the door down'.

Leave him in.

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I expect him to have more than 1 good year for the Blues :P


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In terms of the Hamill role he is already doing that to a certain extent in terms of creating opportunities for the oter forwards through contests, bullocking work and tackles. He just has not been able to add his own finishing touches to the mix yet, but that will come, his work ethic is really good. Never seen him drop his head.

Hamill used to run around like a mad bastard all around the forward line, I used to watch just what he was doing for portions of games and he would just run madly zig zagging around the forward line, harassing chasing doing everything. He really did the hard work so that the other forwards never had to.

Kennedy probably will not be able to do as much running and bashing into things as Hamill used to, maybe more in the Spalding mould (a slower version of Hamill). And that is fine, the Spalding style is much more conducive to a long term career.

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Kennedy is not too good for VFL. The problem we have and clubs have is they play someone based on where they went in the draft instead of how they are actually performing or training.

No disrespect for Kennedy but he should not have played the last 3 games. He simply can't get near it. But big deal! He is young and someone of his size needs time to learn the position and how to use his strength. He will only get better so lets not rush him by playing him the ones when there are guys more deserving playing 2's.

We have guys in the system longer than Kennedy who we would like to see - Edwards, Bower, Hartlett etc Its these guys who we should be looking too.

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i would drop waite before kennedy


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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
...he'll be fine - those of us who have witnessed him train know that it's only a matter of time before he himself gets his timing right and starts to split packs and come up with the grabs.


It's just a shame Tom Hawkins is doing this already... :cry:


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Kennedy is not too good for VFL. The problem we have and clubs have is they play someone based on where they went in the draft instead of how they are actually performing or training.

No disrespect for Kennedy but he should not have played the last 3 games. He simply can't get near it. But big deal! He is young and someone of his size needs time to learn the position and how to use his strength. He will only get better so lets not rush him by playing him the ones when there are guys more deserving playing 2's.

[b]We have guys in the system longer than Kennedy who we would like to see[/b - Edwards, Bower], Hartlett etc Its these guys who we should be looking too.

Lance? :twisted:

Two of those players were selected after Kennedy in the same draft. :?

If there were players more deserving of selection they would have been picked ahead of Kennedy. Hartlett should have torn his opponent who was a first year player a new one and smashed him in one on one contests given the difference in size.

He needs to do more than Kennedy.

But Adam kicked a nice goal on his left. :-D

I can't see how a game against whoever plays fullback for the Casey Scorpions is going to make him into a better footballer. Kennedy coming out and kicking two this week would be better for his development.

I think Edwards might be the new Hamill and Kennedy the new big name CHF. 8)


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:20 am 
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From the outside, IMO Josh appears to be lacking a bit of confidence.
Initially he was quite a physical player and hit the ball hard instinctively. Lately he appears to be second guessing on occasions. As an example, he reaches for the ball on occasions without hitting the body hard where in his early stages, he was happy to smash the pack.

I'd keep it simple for him and play him as a tall in the goalsquare. He can be the option for the long ball coming in as he has shown an ability to create a good contest under the high ball.
He seems to be playing as a leading forward of late which doesnt suit him.

Be patient with him. If he can stay fit, he has all the attributes to be a quality tall marking forward down the track.
He just needs the opportunity to develop physically.

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:58 am 
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a couple of weeks in the bullants will do him more good than harm
let him take some grabs, kick some goals tear it apart get his confidence up then bring him back. i fear playing him at afl level atm is doing him a diservice.


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winfieldblue wrote:
a couple of weeks in the bullants will do him more good than harm
let him take some grabs, kick some goals tear it apart get his confidence up then bring him back. i fear playing him at afl level atm is doing him a diservice.


After watching the weekends game last night on ABC2 - I cannot for the life of me comprehend how anyone would suggest that going back to the Bullants will do him a world of good

That what I saw last night was woeful football on a disgusting looking ground that barely had a blade of grass and looked as hard as concrete a recipe for long term injuries .

Leave JK in the Blues I dont think Hamill had even stepped foot on a ground at his age - Carlton were very patient with Hamill

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:07 am 
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sydneyblue..being too josh centric is detriment to other kids on the list.
we are in the business of developing youth...and winning games.
he has had a good hit out for five games.
time to bring in hartlett and give him an equally fair go, its only right.

as for comparing this weeks bullants.. it is obvious you dont wantch many bullants games. granted you are from sydney but i think you would appreciate that last weeks bullants match was extremely windy.


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SparkyBlue wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
...he'll be fine - those of us who have witnessed him train know that it's only a matter of time before he himself gets his timing right and starts to split packs and come up with the grabs.


It's just a shame Tom Hawkins is doing this already... :cry:


Nah - i disagree.

Tom has looked very good, but he's last two games he hasn't really done much. Which really, when you think about it, to be expected from a kid in his first season of playing with the big boys.

I like Kennedy, He's second efforts especially, but the way we're playing doesn't suit him.

I don't like us playing him in the ruck......he's not a ruckman.

I think he could do his best work inside the goal square.

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Kennedy is great at crashing packs - the only problem is that we barely have any players swooping on the ball at ground level to take advantage of this.

Contrary to what some have said I would prefer to play him deeper in the forward line - kind of as a decoy forward for Fev.

Oh, and Tomahawk has turned into Tomahack pretty quickly, if he hadn't played against us first up he might not still be in the seniors this week.

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