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 Post subject: Playing Walker and Gibbs
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:23 am 
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Can someone please explain why Walker was played today when he was obviously not 100%.

And why we gave a kid of 18 a pain-killing injection to get him back on the ground when he will be playing for the next 10 years.

Great article by Sheahan in todays HS. Hit the nail on the head.

My God, what were the ENTIRE match committee thinking.

Just a disgrace


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:25 am 
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After the game both Murph and Gibbs had party bags of ice strapped to their ankles.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:27 am 
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Totally agree - disgraceful to give Gibbs an injection in only his 14th game [not counting NAB].

If I was his mother, I would be stormin' MC Hammer and screming the house down.

If Tex was still injured why the flower would you even contemplate rushing him back?

Is DP that desperate to get his win tally up, that he will risk the players?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:29 am 
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i wonder how bryce gibbs father feels after knowing his 18 year son had to take an injection to get him back on the ground. Player welfare at carlton is not a high priority. :cry:


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Totally aggree......................

Would much rather the likes of Teauge come in for an injured Gibbs rather than see Gibbs do enough damage to keep him out for a good period of time.

If they ain't fit, dont play em................it's not rocket science!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:42 am 
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Laguna wrote:
Can someone please explain why Walker was played today when he was obviously not 100%.

And why we gave a kid of 18 a pain-killing injection to get him back on the ground when he will be playing for the next 10 years.

Great article by Sheahan in todays HS. Hit the nail on the head.

My God, what were the ENTIRE match committee thinking.

Just a disgrace


I agree.

Here is the link.


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We have always made dubious medical decisions. Maybe thats an area where Swann needs to pay some attention

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:17 am 
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You would think that the club would have learned from the Whitehead episode!


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Sack Dennis?

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To those in the know - who makes the decision about a pian killing injection - doctor obviously, but in conslutation with the coach or someone else?


on Walker - I thought it was a four week injury. He certainly wasn't 100%.
My recollection was that the player had to say i'm ready and then there was a fitness test. has that changed?

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ah who cares.....as long as we lose its all good.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:48 pm 
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The Vet wrote:
To those in the know - who makes the decision about a pian killing injection - doctor obviously, but in conslutation with the coach or someone else?


on Walker - I thought it was a four week injury. He certainly wasn't 100%.
My recollection was that the player had to say i'm ready and then there was a fitness test. has that changed?

On Andy Walkz,he wanted to play,had a fitness test,and of course played.
9 tackles(career high?),on baller and 11 touches in the first qtr.then used down back in the 2ND qrt for some obscure reason, then taken off in the same qtr.and spent most of the 3rd on the pine.
He was ready, and there would be no excuses from him.


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We are all saying, "Play the kids to gain experience".

Looks like Gibbs has experienced all apsects of the game which also includes pain killer injections!!!!!!!.

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On Andy Walkz,he wanted to play,had a fitness test,and of course played.
9 tackles(career high?),on baller and 11 touches in the first qtr.then used down back in the 2ND qrt for some obscure reason, then taken off in the same qtr.and spent most of the 3rd on the pine.
He was ready, and there would be no excuses from him.


I must say some of Pagan's moves had me :? again, but what's new here. I'm glad I'm not the only one however.

He just doesn't trust or believe in the kids enough, ie. Kennedy should have spent the whole match forward/ruck and not pine. Hartlett should have spent the whole game back or forward and not up and down like a yo-yo. Waite ... well enough said. :roll:


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Without knowing exactly what happened, I'm sure that the doc gave the ankle an all clear before giving him the injection.

Blokes roll their ankles all the time in this caper and come back on to play. Could have clipped a nerve, but the body being a fickle thing, his ankle could have been giving way in response to the pain, ie. there could have been no significant damage.

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DOA wrote:
The Vet wrote:
To those in the know - who makes the decision about a pian killing injection - doctor obviously, but in conslutation with the coach or someone else?


on Walker - I thought it was a four week injury. He certainly wasn't 100%.
My recollection was that the player had to say i'm ready and then there was a fitness test. has that changed?

On Andy Walkz,he wanted to play,had a fitness test,and of course played.
9 tackles(career high?),on baller and 11 touches in the first qtr.then used down back in the 2ND qrt for some obscure reason, then taken off in the same qtr.and spent most of the 3rd on the pine.
He was ready, and there would be no excuses from him.


thanks for that DOA.

look forward to "the ghost' being fully fighting fit, and breaking the lines as usual.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:25 pm 
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Hasn't the club learned anything from the Adrian Whitehead experience?

3AW were saying the club denied any injection to Gibbs but rather the kid just sucked it up and went back on without any pain killer.

then again this comes from a club that has a coach telling us to be patient... I think he used that press conference about five years ago...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:40 pm 
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I think it's important to find out the truth before slandering the club.

Did he receive an injection or not?

Who is going on the record?

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3AW were saying the club denied any injection to Gibbs but rather the kid just sucked it up and went back on without any pain killer.


That's the closest thing to 'on the recoed' I have heard.

Why create any angst for the parents if you don't know the truth? :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:46 pm 
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Doc Larkins said his ankle was restrapped.

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I was sitting pretty much directly behind the bench for most of the second quarter, and Gibbs spent at least 15 mintues running up and down the boundary line, doing knee raises etc. Seemed to me more like a restrap and him keeping it warm, but I'm no medic. I hope to God they didn't give him an injection, that's ridiculous at this point of his career (and our season).

And don't get me started on some of the moves being made yesterday.


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