http://carltonfc.com.au/Season2007/News ... wsId=42463

These articles are a great initiative and I commend the club for producing them. As expected, they divulge little but Crosisca and Ratten have put the time in which is great.

As usual I have a criticism and it relates the following quote_



I am past our coaching staff pointing the finger at the players to excuse losses.
Its always "they made errors at critical times" or "they got ahead of themselves"
When did you last hear the coaching staff admit they made an error which cost the game?
I'm damn sure the inflexibility and inabilities of our coaches have cost a game or 2 over the past 5 years.
When did you last hear them admit they made a mistake????
When did they last analyse themselves and highlight their inadequacies to the media?


The reason we lost the game is we conceded too many goals. Our structure allowed us to score heavily but it also allowed our opponents to do the same.
It needs to be sorted out and I'm sure it can be in time.

Crosisca could have said "we are trying to establish a style of play which hopefully will give us the opportunity to establish prolonged success.
It will take time."


Highlighting our youngsters and their inexperience is purely and simply deflective nonsense.

BTW, this is not neccesarily a criticism of Gavin Crosisca but the coaching philosophies as a whole.
I've had the opportunity to talk to Crosisca in the past few months and watched him work with our backs and IMO, he will be fantastic value to our kids.

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Hardess thing to say in life is " I was Wrong"

But once you have said it a few times it becomes easy and you become a better person I think

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I would argue that the reason we lost the game was because we kicked too many points and Brisbane did not. We produced a significant amount of opportunities to put Brisbane away.
Our problem was not conceding goals but converting opportunities.

I would agree that was a very significant issue as well.
Was that caused by our youngsters and their inexperience?

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Even if Pagan wins 3 premierships in a row with us, I wouldn't think we'd hear those words from you

can I quote this when Denis wins us our 17th

and yes, no need to mention the kids being at fault when in reality it was fev and lance missing in the seond half that hurt us much as anything.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

If Pagan could win three GAMES in a row I would probably say it

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Now that's what I call putting your neck on the chopping block
The spirit of Lou Richards is alive and well.

Kudos to you, and I hope to check back on this later in the season.

How about in the 3rd quarter when Waite made four errors in the one passage of play which resulted in a turnover and goal. Is Waite still considered as part of our youngsters???

IIRC Pagan said something very similar to this post game. He talked about of how playing the attacking game style won't win as many games in the short term as as a defensive style, but it will fast track the kids.

We can only work with the results he has provided...

WORST COACHING RECORED EVER AT CARLTON.

Pagan and Carlton dont mix......... i keep saying it.... Ron Barassi was awake to this in the mid sixties... the first thing he did when he came to Carlton was sack Pagan...

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It was caused by experienced players making crucial skill errors at important times giving Brisbane the opportunity to have shots at goal.

The turning point in this game from my point of view came with less than a minute to go in the second term. We had just kicked a goal to go 19 points up and cleared from the centre. Carazzo took a mark on the HFF and dished off to Scotland whose opponent trailed him by a few steps. One important thing that Carazzo DID NOT DO was to put on a bit of a shepherd. ANY contact would have helped but he didn't. Scotland got scragged, coughed up the ball and as a result, Brisbane whisked the ball away and actually kicked a goal - all in the last minute of the `/4.
If he had have put a shepherd on, we may well have been having a shot ourselves, or at least been able to get the ball closer to goal and see the 1/4 out with some pressure but this was a DIRECT result of Carazzo not putting on a shepherd. It is BASIC things like this that let us down at crucial times. Players have been learning to do this since Grade 2 FFS. But it must be Pagan's fault for not drilling it into the players.... or perhaps it is Lance's fault for not telling him... or perhaps Elliots fault for @#$%&! the club up so we had to draft players who don't have basic footy intelligence.. or perhaps it is Jezza and George Harris' fault back in '79 for leaving the Club and setting us on the path to the Elliot reign - via Ian Rice of course... or perhaps....well, you get my drift.

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Leave Carazzo alone , hes in my supercoach team

The coach is there to coach the players. This process obviously entails a review on the player performance. This is what is being described.

The review of the coach should be done by the match committee or football dept. Now if it was the match committee or football dept being interviewed then you could expect such a comment about the coaching. If you expect a coach to come out bagging themself which could harm future contract negotiations or future employment then you are just living in dream land.

Oh and I noticed a lot of your posts have these in them even when they aren't funny so I better add a few Oh yes and a to finish off.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

Thats not entirely correct Synbad Pagans win loss % is 25.81 - Serge Coached three games in 1978 for no wins and Patty Obrien in 1924 coached 2 games with no wins

1924 -25 terrible years - terrible list went through three coaches

He is fast approaching 100 games (93 -2 behind Big Nick) and we haven't even looked like making a premiership there has been only one coach in the history of this great club who has coached over 50 games that has not taken us to play off for a premiership and that was Jim Francis 56-58 his winning percentage was a lousy 53.64% double that of Pagans

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Yeah credit to those who make the effort to put these out but ... really... ..

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There's so much I could say...

Contrary to everyone else's opinion I didn't enjoy sitting through that game and I hated it since I knew what was coming. There was no way we could match Brisbane goal for goal for four quarters when you take into account the premiership experience they had on the park.

But that's the lot of following a young team missing Kouta, Stevens and Fisher.

Of course.

Its better to harm the future employment or contract negotiations of the players than give an honest appraisal.

The coach should review his own performance. If he cant do that and be honest with himself, he's doing the club a disservice and should move on.

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absofuckinglutely!

My KPI's show that Pagan needs to be reviewed.

The coach should not be above the law!

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They coud'nt.....could they?