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And Andrew Demetriou, whom Kernahan famously called and abused after Carlton lost two tiers of top draft picks and $1million, is a reasonable bloke, he said. "Andrew and I are fine. Andrew calls it as he sees it but when he hurt my club he copped it."

Yep, a good read. But I really baulked at stick's comment that 'we never should have sacked Elshaugh and Mulkearns'.

Is he serious? I wonder who the players would rather have around right now - Elshaugh or Ratten?

And I wonder if it's just possible that our ability to run out games seemingly better than our opposition might have anything to do with a change in our conditioning coach?

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I'm glad Stick gave it to that scum bag.......

The funny thing about those penalties imposed, and the susequent dark few years, is that it has helped me appreciate the Carlton football club more than ever.

Sticks shouldn't open up to Caro - he should open her up with an axe. :twisted:

Reading that article...no one loves the club more than the big fella

The other thing is that Murphy comes out of contract at the end of this year. That means he was only given a 2-year contract when we drafted him. Interesting, as I think most assumed he was given a longer deal.

Author:	fjanyc [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:59 am ]
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http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/a-blue-through-and-through/2007/04/06/1175366476448.html Some very interesting quotes in the article ... especially about the sacking of Elshaug and Mulkearns

Author:	George Harris [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:07 am ]
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Reading that article, Kernahan is still trying to be everyone's friend...

Author:	TruBlueBrad [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:25 am ]
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Reading that article...no one loves the club more than the big fella

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:37 am ]
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A good read.

Author:	JohnM [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:28 am ]
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Yep, a good read. But I really baulked at stick's comment that 'we never should have sacked Elshaugh and Mulkearns'. Is he serious? I wonder who the players would rather have around right now - Elshaugh or Ratten? And I wonder if it's just possible that our ability to run out games seemingly better than our opposition might have anything to do with a change in our conditioning coach? Sticks loves the club, and as the article suggests i think even the man himself recognizes this, but the club will be better off with sticks just being quietly in the background, letting others suchs as Icke make the football dept. decisions.

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Author:	marciblue [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:39 am ]
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You cant question the great Sticks' love for Carlton and there will always be respect for the bloke but perhaps it comes down to two things that - 1. he tries to be too amicable to all even when the situation requires the opposite and 2. perhaps he simply isn't cut-out to be calling the shots at the coalface and making these types of decisions The Mitchell saga is still unacceptable for my liking but with the team seemingly on the up it has been relegated to a minor issue

Author:	Lace Out [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:49 am ]
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Quote: And Andrew Demetriou, whom Kernahan famously called and abused after Carlton lost two tiers of top draft picks and $1million, is a reasonable bloke, he said. "Andrew and I are fine. Andrew calls it as he sees it but when he hurt my club he copped it." I'm glad Stick gave it to that scum bag....... The funny thing about those penalties imposed, and the susequent dark few years, is that it has helped me appreciate the Carlton football club more than ever.[/quote]

Author:	AGRO [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:41 am ]
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Sticks shouldn't open up to Caro - he should open her up with an axe.

Author:	mikkey [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:52 am ]
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I think this is a "repair job" by the club in regard to its media relations. Sticks "unloading" on a number of journos at the B&F would always invite pay back by them. Caro has been actively looking for negative angles (e.g. the Lance saga) even after the Board problems were solved. I think this interview was given to patch things up with her. I think Tony is behind this.

Author:	RiverRodent [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:04 am ]
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JohnM wrote: Yep, a good read. But I really baulked at stick's comment that 'we never should have sacked Elshaugh and Mulkearns'. Is he serious? I wonder who the players would rather have around right now - Elshaugh or Ratten? The comment about Trout and Mulkearns is not unreasonable because they were sacked due to their relationship with Denis rather than due to poor performances by either of them. That does not mean that their replacements are not upgrades, simply that Trout and Mulkearns did not deserve to be sacked. JohnM wrote: And I wonder if it's just possible that our ability to run out games seemingly better than our opposition might have anything to do with a change in our conditioning coach? Yes, maybe, perhaps not. I prefer Ford's approach but there was nothing wrong with Mulkearns' training plan or the team's fitness in previous years. To suggest otherwise is far too simplistic.

Author:	Teen Spirit [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:17 am ]
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Firearm Fevs wrote: Quote: And Andrew Demetriou, whom Kernahan famously called and abused after Carlton lost two tiers of top draft picks and $1million, is a reasonable bloke, he said. "Andrew and I are fine. Andrew calls it as he sees it but when he hurt my club he copped it." I'm glad Stick gave it to that scum bag....... The funny thing about those penalties imposed, and the susequent dark few years, is that it has helped me appreciate the Carlton football club more than ever. [/quote] couldnt have put it better myself... Nic

Author:	mjonc [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:22 am ]
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AGRO wrote: Sticks shouldn't open up to Caro - he should open her up with an axe. Extereme Makeover you mean Good article. It is people like sticks that our club needs, through good and bad, he remains loyal and shows his emotions. Graham S should of bottled it when he had the chance.

Author:	Siegfried [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:29 am ]
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Agree with JohnM and Marciblue about Kernahan, but we've had that debate before. A couple of things to come out... Shock horror, Caro writing a positive story about Carlton!!! No one seems to have made mention of that. As I wrote on another thread last week, Caro writes about off-field matters, and she writes it as it is. As we get out house in order, she will write positive stuff about us. The other thing is that Murphy comes out of contract at the end of this year. That means he was only given a 2-year contract when we drafted him. Interesting, as I think most assumed he was given a longer deal.

Author:	Electric Blue [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:39 am ]
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TruBlueBrad wrote: Reading that article...no one loves the club more than the big fella I loved it from that perspective...

Author:	camel [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:50 pm ]
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I definitely don't think the article was written with a positive angle in mind from the author. It's more of a supposed warts and all account of Sticks' role at the club over recent years. Sticks is great. A Carlton great. But his time on the board is past. I believe he would be far better off acting in a mentoring role and acting as a conduit between players and board, if required. But only in a guest role, not as an offical board capacity, much the same as Rod Ashman is reported to be working.

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Author:	Andain [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:20 pm ]
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Is it a positive article? Sticks is being pretty positive but inbetween Caroline is generally being her rumour mongering negative self.

Author:	Speakers [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:05 pm ]
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Well thank God it wasn't Caro opens up to Sticks

Author:	jimmae [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:19 pm ]
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Siegfried wrote: The other thing is that Murphy comes out of contract at the end of this year. That means he was only given a 2-year contract when we drafted him. Interesting, as I think most assumed he was given a longer deal. All draftees score a two-year contract, as do all interstate rookies. I think you can toss on an extension option, but both parties have to agree.

Author:	bondiblue [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:59 pm ]
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At last Wednesday's gala night, Sticks mentioned that he "had an appointment he'd been avoiding for the last 7 months with 'Caro'" on Thursday (the next day). He really was adamant that it was going to be "a quick one", and that he "couldn't get out of it". But it's "much easier today than it was 7 months ago". A couple of crownies would loosen up the nerves....or something like that.

Author:	bluechampion [ Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:38 pm ]
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I also got the impression that when Sticks mentioned Elshaugh and Mulkearns, he was referring to the way that they were let go, not that he thinks they should still be employees of the club. In ther end, for all the factional back-biting they were the only two obvious casualties from the footy department. I found it very difficult to read this article without my 'caroline-wilson-doesn't-really-like-the-CFC' glasses on. So, in some ways I agree with Andain - I'm not sure it was wholly positive.