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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:19 pm 
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Hey all, back for the third installment of my game review. Firstly, I'd like to invite anyone who attended the game (or even others who just watched it) to add to the review, as I often find its hard to review a game solely based on what you see on the television. Anyway, onto the review:

Andrew Walker - firstly, Tex's disposal was outstanding last night. One thing thats noticeable is that he has really honed his left-foot kicking and is able to hit a target over 40-50m off the non-preferred with regularity. Links up beautifully with the other defenders. Showed enormous courage on a few occasions to back into the hole in front of the leading player and cause the spoil. R - 8.5/10

Jordan Russell - Um did Brent Harvey even play? Was given the tagging role on Harvey and shadowed him brilliantly. Apart from the one little error where he allowed Harvey to baulk him on the mark and kick the goal, Russell did an outstanding job. Also seems to have gained some confidence and his decision making and skills under pressure are quite good. Had one shocker of a disposal very early on, but lets forget that. Think over the last 3 games he's earnt himself a spot in our best 22 for Rd 1 in my opinion. R - 8/10

Marc Murphy - His disposal into the forward 50 was slightly down in the first half yesterday, although that takes into account that extremely high standard he's set for himself to sustain. Shows enormous poise under pressure and one skill that has been highlighted in the past few games is his ability to break out of tackles, which indicates his strength through the hips and legs. Kicked two beautiful goals and this is something we want to see more of in 2007. Class act! R - 8.5/10

Bryce Gibbs - as has been mentioned before, if you were a Carlton supporter, the first 5 minutes of the match left you drooling. Bryce gave us just a couple of glimpses of the talent he has. On a couple of occasions when he had the ball, he made the Kangaroos look like witches hats. Good to see him get a bit more of a run through the middle and whilst not racking up lots of possessions, last night may have been the beginning on something special. R - 8/10

Kade Simpson - delivery into the forward 50 in the first half especially was a bit of a let down when he too often popped the ball onto a forwards head, rather than out in front of them. However, its fair to say he wasn't the only one in this category. Missed a set shot for goal that he should have nailed and being able to convert goals are what will see him take another step forward this year. Is in peak fitness and ran out the game incredibly strongly. Showed good marking skills overhead and also laid a few good tackles. R - 8/10

Adam Bentick - probably one of the main catalysts in our revival. His clearance work in the third and fourth quarters was outstanding. Showed his real value to the team and showed a real knack for being in the perfect position to receive the tap, which with quick hands resulted in the likes of Murphy, Stevens and Scotland being able to get clearances. Also, I think he has gained a touch of pace from last year and whilst still not the quickest guy in the team, enables him to break free of congestion when he needs to. Also, his delivery by food was improved and put two kicks in particular perfectly to Fev on the lead resulting in 2 goals. Earnt himself a spot in the best 22 for Rd 1 as well. R - 9/10

Lance Whitnall - ok, has had no impact on any of the three NAB Cup games. Not going to crucify him that quickly as who knows whether this is due to a hampered pre-season with the sore knee, off-field issues or adjusting to a new gameplan and forward structure. Needs to lift his game though as there is plenty of competition for places. R - 5/10 (spent large portions on the bench which stopped this from being lower).

Cain Ackland - probably didnt have as good a game as last week, but was still serviceable. Spent some time resting at full forward and it will be interesting to see how often Denis uses him in this role in the regular season. Due to his size will never dominate at ruck contests, but will need to utilize the mobility advantage he has over other ruckman around the ground more than he did last night. R - 7.5/10

Matthew Lappin - Skinny spent plenty of time on the bench again last night and when he came on was all over the place again. Spent some time as a forward and looked quite dangerous - his height and leap really poses a problem for opposition defenders. Finished the game playing as a sweeper down back and showed his cool head under pressure and great foot skills in times of need. No doubts he will be in our best 22. R - 8/10

Brad Fisher - didnt do a lot in the first half, but showed in the second half that he will be dangerous as our fourth forward. Marked strongly and what would please most fans is that he converted his set shot from 40m out straight through the middle (however, he missed his next shot from 30m on an angle when he hit the post). His pressure on the forward line was fantastic and his desperation at contests resulted in the ball staying alive for us on a couple of occasions. Similar to Bentick, I also think he has gained some pace in the off-season. R - 8/10

Setanta O'Hailpin - for all but 10 minutes in the third quarter when he was on the wrong side of the umpires, completely blanketed Thompson. Shows some great aggression and this comes through when he spoils - really gives the ball a punch. Has good closing speed, combines well with the other defenders and his disposal by foot is improving. Another thing I noticed is that he is beginning to read the play really well and on a couple of occasions, knew when to run off his man to provide an extra number at the contest and ended up receiving the handball and clearing the zone. R - 8.5/10

Paul Bower - firstly, gotta love the fro. Didn't really get a lot of game time, but showed a few nice things when he was on. Tall, athletic and seems to be playing with confidence despite last night being his first game. Can't say much more - probably will find it hard to crack into our defensive 6, through no fault of his own. R - 7/10

Eddie Betts - correct me if I'm wrong, but did Betts play as a lead-up CHF? If so, it was an inspired move. So many times, especially in the second half, our forward thrusts moved through Eddie at half forward taking the ball on the lead. 9 marks for the game, which would almost have to be a career high. Kicked two goals from set shots under pressure which was great to see. Did the 1%'s that he is known for - harrassing, chasing, tackling and smothering. Probably the best game I've seen Eddie play - keep playing like this and he's assured of being a regular in the seniors. R - 9/10

Adam Hartlett - so the guy that came to us after playing as a forward in the U/18s (I'm pretty sure of this, correct me if I'm wrong), who we have been grooming as a key position defender gets a crack in the seniors and plays as a half forward? Confused yet. Played a really good game and impressed me. Moved really well and despite having had a slightly interrupted pre-season, seems to have a pretty good motor and ran out the game well. Has strong hands and led well. Decision making and execution were a little suspect, but considering he hasn't played senior footy since the last NAB Cup thats to be expected. Puts a bit of pressure on Lance with last nights perfomance. R - 8/10

Nick Stevens - firstly, still missed a few targets early on that he shouldn't miss. Also, a couple of times went wide to the lead of Carazzo when he probably should have straightened up and looked for Fev down the middle. Also, occasionally needs to just chuck the ball on the boot and get it forward at centre clearances as a little too often is looking for a clear take-away and gets caught. Apart from that, had a great game, racked up the possessions and generally used them pretty well. His goal from 50m on the boundary was outstanding and at a pretty crucial time in the game. Again, will be looking for more goals out of him this season. R - 8.5/10

Brendan Fevola - so for a brief period there, we saw the bad Fev come back. Remonstrated with the umpires, teammates and refused to chase. After a brief stint on the bench though, came back and sparked the revival. Kicked 8 goals in a game which wasn't his best (scary huh?). You can see that he really is the barometer of the team, when he started getting fired up you could see the rest of the team lift. On another note, was interviewed after the game and just promotes and markets the club really well. R - 9/10

Cameron Cloke - continues to impress since his move from Collingwood. Provides a contest at the centre bounces and more importantly gives second and third efforts. Has clearly been working extremely hard on his fitness and looks in as good a shape as he has been ever in his career. Its a testament to both Paul Ford and Clokey himself for putting in so much effort. Positions himself well around the ground and ended up with 7 marks, mostly in defensive positions. Another good thing is that he knows his limitations, when a short option is not clearly available he doesn't try to manufacture one, he kicks the ball long and down the line. R - 8.5/10

Heath Scotland - I was criticized a bit last week for my comments and rating of Scotland, but I'll stick to my guns and repeat it this week. Is playing his role to perfection and his disposal by foot and decision making last night was great. Played more of a midfield role last night and not so much as the sweeper across half back. Would like to see this more often as his foot skills moving forward can be quite damaging. R - 8.5/10

Jarrad Waite - exciting. Completely dismantled Leigh Brown who had kicked 4 goals the week before against the Dockers. The advantage for us will be that if Waite can match bigger opponents like Brown, he will really be able to hurt them with his pace and attack going the other way. His run down the wing with 4 bounces was great, even if the finish was less than clinical. Attack on the ball was first rate and was pushed forward for stages in the second half. His pass to Fisher (which may have been intended for Fev), was great. Good to have this flexibility in our team. Still occasionally makes errors with his disposal when under pressure in the backline, but hopefully these will decrease as the year progresses. R - 8.5/10

Bret Thornton - again, was victim on that 10 minute surge by the Kangaroos where Archer kicked two goals (although one was potentially a teammates fault as there had been a switch as the ball was coming down). The advantage of having played in a backline that has been savaged in the past 5 years is that he shows extremely good poise under pressure. Makes extremely good decisions with the ball in his hands and more often than not results in a rebound from defensive 50. Will really see him blossom this year as the third defender. R - 8.5/10

Ryan Houlihan - consistency, thats all we need from Houla. Had an outstanding game last night. Had lots of possessions and almost all of them were effective and high-quality. Played between half-back and the wing and just made really good decisions. Doesn't panic when he does have the ball, similar to Thornton, and just links beautifully. Has really worked hard on his fitness and ran out the game really well. Best on ground for mine. R - 9.5/10

Ryan Jackson - didnt get much game time and didnt do a lot when he was on. Moves well and is extremely fit. Dont think you can say much more about him than that on last nights perfomance. R - 6/10

Anthony Koutoufides - came off the bench and played almost exclusively in the midfield rather than the forward role we saw in patches last week. Didnt do a lot, but looks like the mind and body are both set for a big 2007. His clearance work in the defensive 50 in the last quarter was fantastic and his ability to extract the ball is still extremely valuable. R - 8/10

Andrew Carazzo - Appeared to play more as a forward than a midfielder which was a little disappointing. Led wide, which is probably not such a bad thing as it creates space for the other forwards, however, the ball was delivered to him on these occasions. Interesting stat that came up during the commentary, at the U/18 championships, he averaged more possessions than Judd, Hodge etc. Certainly a ball magnet - should be used in midfield rotations. On the fringe for our best 22. R - 7.5/10

General notes:

- the backline is starting to resemble a very tall, athletic and scary unit. The main thing I noticed is that the guys position themselves very well to be able to help each other out and clear the ball. They are linking very well together and often string 4 or 5 quick, useful handballs together before the ball is cleared. Carlos, Waite and Thornton are going to match-up well with most forward lines this year.

- there is finally some depth in the squad and competition for places in the team. Bower is one I've mentioned and I think he'll struggle to make our 22 for Rd 1. He has done nothing wrong and shows lots of talent and potential, but he just can't break into a defensive 6 that is playing really well at the moment. Also, the midfield has some good depth when you consider that guys like Blackwell, Jackson, Grigg, Wiggins probably wont be playing in Round 1. The forward line also has some competition. With Kennedy almost a certainty to play Rd 1 and Hartlett impressing last night, there has to be some pressure on Whitnall to find form to retain his spot. This has only gotta be good news for the attitude of the players to not get content.


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Thanks for your efforts ttd2004.

And before anyone slags off your pretty generous ratings, can I add that it looks like you're taking the same approach to rating footballers as wine writers rate wines:

They basically start with 50 points out of 100, and add from there. So even a terrible, nasty, undrinkable bottle of metho would get 51 points.

In a similar way, I think you start with 5 points out of 10, and add from there. Hence Lance, who if he were a bottle of wine at the moment would probably be resigned to the cooking pot, scoring a seemingly generous 5/10 for having absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever (although I will admit he did make a great stepladder for Fev in the third).

Gibbs at 8 and Murphy at 8.5 though? IMO, Murph had twice the game that Gibbs did. If Murph's an 8.5, Gibbs had a 6.5 (but a 9.9 for what he showed for the future).

Agree with your Houlihan assessment. A great game from him.


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Ok, so I've decide to fire in with my own effort so my mate here doesn't cop too much flak for having a dip.

Bit of a different angle for my effort but here we go:

Ackland - Was solid, if unspectacular. Mobile enough considering his Mr Olympia-style upper-body, but this is watered down by his average kicking skills. Provided grunt last night but was an inferior option to Cloke (as I say that, the universe has just begun unravelling). Marking power up forward was again a plus but would be slaughtered if he lined up there as a genuine leading target.

Bentick - His first half left me appreciating his value at the stoppages but lamenting the idea of him touching the ball outside of them. His second half went a long way to erradicating my apprehension as he went from receiving, turning and hoofing it, to receiving, carrying, sizing up his options and measuring a kick more within his range. Well done to him, proved me (and the greater football community) wrong. Is still shakey when carrying the ball but seems to be doing everything right. Stark contrast between his running mechanics when he started here to last night. Keep it all up Adam and your opponents will really have to start worrying about you beyond stoppages.

Betts - Great game from Eddie, provided forward pressure, pushed up and led well into space so that his diminutive frame wasn't engulfed by his opponent. Pushes up into the midfield well and seems to now have the tank for it now, although I still only support his use there in bursts. Could well be a handy option at the centre bounce but there's a kid by the name of Nathan Djerkurra who a few of us would have liked to have seen performing such a job. Another player who is making better use of his limited kicking depth.

Bower - Shut down Lachlan Hansen so has now solidified his role as one of the games defensive superstars. :P Limited exposure but showed that his kicking style is effective and that he still has the athleticism to take on a variety of roles in the defensive half, despite some extra bulk. Would like to see more of him in the seniors.

Carrazzo - Finally playing smart football, or more accurately he's finally been given a brand of football to play that's a smart choice for him. Has more confidence with his disposal and makes clever use of it despite most of his kicks heading a bit too skyward. Another player who is not having his lack of kicking depth flogged. Really happy that he's roaming into the forward half of the ground and putting up a good performance there. With that string added to his bow, he is now a very balanced midfielder and will add to an increasingly versatile engine room.

Cloke - Our dominant ruckman last night. Part of the clearance team that dragged us back into contention. Has more energy at the contest than Ackland with a higher spring and more effective work when the ball hits the deck. Booming kick but is realising he needs to work on it more if he wants to deliver to the forward line. This resulted in him using his handballing skills to link with smalls on the wing this week with great success and was rewarded with a lot of possession there. Out of McLaren, Ackland and himself probably the best build as well so I think if he can keep up with the demands of ruckwork as our backup for at least 3 seasons. I do fear that he will be used too much through the season as Ackland is not shaping up well at the moment, McLaren is underdone and may be no better than Ackland and everyone else isn't ready.

Fevola - Will be unfairly harsh here but he needs to keep his focus on the game until he hears an umpire whistle. Plays for too many free kicks and is a little sporadic with his chasing out of the forward line. Having said this he is also smart about where and how far he runs, and other players are starting to play in a similar fashion. Whether that's his influence or that of a coach, or another player I don't know. Superstar of the game and needs to pull his head in sometimes, but you know if he did completely hit the straight and narrow act, he wouldn't be that same player.

Fisher - Has been superb the last two weeks as some started to call for his head in favour of Edwards. Another player using his kicking skills smarter. Sensational link option around the ground and his work rate has gone up another notch from last year, which is really saying something. Bonafide marking option in the midfield and I'd love to see him have the confidence for a bit of run and carry when the situation calls for it. Was used well at CHF which is a bit of a shock - smalls now run in along the flanks into space and Fish marks and kicks sideways, allowing them to size up an option in the 15 - 30 m range rather than the 35 - 50 m range, or run inside the 50 and have a shot.

Gibbs - Is a bit nervous but is clearly expecting big things of himself and so he should, but he's looking for them in the wrong areas. Will never be a Judd, Murphy, Deledio, etc. Needs to relax and remember what he can do and what he can't do and will be a great player for a long time for the footy club. Loved his clean hands last night and the weaving efforts that nearly resulted in a sensational goal from the pocket. The better his awareness in congested situations becomes, the greater a player he will be.

Hartlett - First time up forward at this level and did exactly what was asked of him, although was not treated with respect by the Kangaroos defense. Could have made them pay more if he wasn't always interested in kicking as far as he possibly could, and this was shown in the later stages of the game as he became an option coming out of defense rather than forward of the wing.

Houlihan - Great game by Houla, his disposal was magnificent - not a fault to be seen. Hitting targets inside 40 m is money for jam for him, and its all he had to do. Didn't get much of a go forward of centre but was so creative receiving the ball just forward of HB that it didn't matter. Got to see him use the jets properly for the first in I don't know how long (if only once) so his groin, hips, knees and ankles must be feeling ok for a change. His accountability is up on last year and will now punish teams as a result, ala Carrazzo/Bentick but in reverse.

Jackson - Not as clever with his game as last week, but probably saw the least amount of game time for us. Very happy with him as a bench player because he can now do everything competently, making him a great link player. Jacko could well be one of the forgotten men in a premiership side, at least by any non-Carltonian. :)

Koutoufidies - Another well executed game by Kouta: the dancing has made him feel a bit nimble again! Great that he's being used off the bench and great to have him as an option off the bench. Crucial clearance player for us still and it showed up last night. Didn't get a gig up forward this game but has been handy there so far this year.

Lappin - See Kouta. Used throughout the ground last night and did ok in defense but I don't like him there. The knocks are starting to get to Matty and he's lost a bit more pace this year again. Still a supreme kick and a clever user of the ball and did well when placed under pressure last night on several occassions, usual receiving a handball when he probably shouldn't have been. He and Kouta must be used of the bench this season, and the way they are looking at the moment they may even be able to do it for another season. :shock:

Murphy - He rushed a few kicks and I think I saw him try to duck his head once. Squib. Seriously, superstar in the making, only because no one outside of Carlton wants to admit it publicly. Performs his role in forward stoppages supremely and his uncanny knack for shrugging tackles gets him out of any trouble that he might be in, usually due to someone else's sloppy decision making. Our people should be studying exactly how or why he is able to do that and get our other players to start replicating it. Amazing balance, poise and core strength for someone so young. Oh yeah, he also reads the game better than most in the league. I've often wondered what would happen if you were able to take the football nous of a guy like Whitnall or Diesel and stick in in the body of a bloke like Judd. I'd say Murphy is as close as you can find to that merging of polar opposites.

O'hAilpin - Did his job with ease and like Fevola, only himself will be his undoing. Needs to be more composed in dealing with officials and opposition. Passion is fantastic but he is letting it feed his temprament in a negative fashion. Would like to see him cut off more opposition f50 entries, but Waite seems to have this job at the moment. Not as confident carrying the ball as last year, which is what made him a remarkable player for me, but again, that's ok. If he can produce them when required and do his job the rest of the time as he is now, that's fine by me. His ever increasing nous is on-track to see him become a great defender but he seems to be able to now be able to handle most opponents on athletic ability alone.

Russell - My first reaction is always disappointment with our (and we can now say that with a greater sense possessiveness) Russ because he's a number 9 pick tagging. Look no further than Mr. Walker if you want a rough idea of what's in store for Jordan. Did his job bar concede one goal off Harvey and linked well when called upon. Lacks a true offensive side to his game but has the coaching and talent around him to learn from and will do so.

Scotland - The perrenial loose man. I feel there's better men in the team for the job but Scotland seems to be at a talent level where he can just play the role, and no one will pay him the attention he deserves should he succeed. We can always fall back on others if need be. Solid link option, solid delivery and solid creativity off half-back.

Simpson - Another I'm going to sound as though I'm marking hard. Not as sharp hitting targets up forward as he was last year but it's early days. Hitting the contested ball a lot harder than I've ever seen from him, both on the ground and through the air, making him a suprising marking target along with Murph in the midfield.

Stevens - Dare I say it - captain's game from Stevens. Was tough at the stoppages and regularly saw him bouncing off opponents and feeind the ball out by hand, as well as running hard to provide a link option. Never has to worry about his opponent because they're usually shadowing him but if he keeps this new aggressive edge he has brought to his game, he will make his tagger look silly all the time. The shot from the pocket was sensational, if slightly arrogant.

Thornton - Intensely creative, which now seems to be a theme for our entire defensive unit. They need to invent a new stat for T-Bird and a few others back there: rebound runs. I reckon he'd have clocked up about 10 at least. With Waite down there to take the other key post off his hands he looks incredibly damaging and obviously a more consistent defender through being able to play in his weight division. Seems to handle pacier opponents a little better than last year at the moment too. Attacking the ball with greater vigour but like many in our team needs to remember the value of knock-ons and directed spoils in creating an effective rebound from defense. Also jumped up into a contest when he probably didn't need to at one point as Carlos had the spoil and the ground ball was gathered by a Roo uncontested. One real mistake. Not bad.


Waite - Didn't think he had the agility or the hands to play the role he's now playing but I guess it shows just how down on confidence he was. Hopefully doesn't become arrogant about his performances at CHB because better teams will expose his decision making and still erratic footskills. Having said that he was solid with his kicking last night, even with a little flair for that pass to Stevens which resulted in a premature goal of the year attempt. Just great to see Waite playing competitive footy again, and especially good to see a Kouta-esque charge along the wing, and seems to have taken the role Carlos was playing late last season and doing so with authority.

Walker - Faultless game as far as I'm concerned. You won't have things go all your way unless the stars align, but Andrew did everything within his power perfectly. Steadied before he kicked, ran smart as well as hard, was prepared to stop and prop and link with team mates rather than charge down the field with reckless abandon. Play like that for 22 games and ensure you're onside with most of your team mates and you're a shoe-in for the leadership group again Andy.

Whitnall - I think he peaked earlier in the pre-season. Something's not right for Lance at the moment, and although he's not in his best shape, I don't think it's physical. Certainly feeling the duress of a hot week or so in the press and could maybe have a chat to Fev about dealing with the pressures involved with the papers making you out to be a knob-head. If it is physical he needs to be rested next week so there aren't more stinging articles from the press for new and exciting reasons.

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good review dood ..


also impressed with jordy russell's quiet steady improvement

liked hartletts work .. should maybe rest kennedy next week ... let harts do the job

murphy really is fantastic .. gibbsy has a great role model .. loved his judd-like goal after the fumble (tho a bit worried about copeland's treatment this week!)

walker is such a hard working player these days .. credit to him

one of eddies best games

waite and fisher still 2 of my fave players .. and now showing everyone why

can stick with ackland cloke for now .. leave mclaren

liked benticks grunt work .. wish he was a bit quicker with hand to give off sometimes . . but well done


well done to all of them .. any comeback like that is enjoyable


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JohnM wrote:
Thanks for your efforts ttd2004.

And before anyone slags off your pretty generous ratings, can I add that it looks like you're taking the same approach to rating footballers as wine writers rate wines:

They basically start with 50 points out of 100, and add from there. So even a terrible, nasty, undrinkable bottle of metho would get 51 points.

In a similar way, I think you start with 5 points out of 10, and add from there. Hence Lance, who if he were a bottle of wine at the moment would probably be resigned to the cooking pot, scoring a seemingly generous 5/10 for having absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever (although I will admit he did make a great stepladder for Fev in the third).

Gibbs at 8 and Murphy at 8.5 though? IMO, Murph had twice the game that Gibbs did. If Murph's an 8.5, Gibbs had a 6.5 (but a 9.9 for what he showed for the future).

Agree with your Houlihan assessment. A great game from him.


I think he actually starts with 8/10 and adds from there

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JohnM wrote:
Thanks for your efforts ttd2004.

And before anyone slags off your pretty generous ratings, can I add that it looks like you're taking the same approach to rating footballers as wine writers rate wines:

They basically start with 50 points out of 100, and add from there. So even a terrible, nasty, undrinkable bottle of metho would get 51 points.

In a similar way, I think you start with 5 points out of 10, and add from there. Hence Lance, who if he were a bottle of wine at the moment would probably be resigned to the cooking pot, scoring a seemingly generous 5/10 for having absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever (although I will admit he did make a great stepladder for Fev in the third).

Gibbs at 8 and Murphy at 8.5 though? IMO, Murph had twice the game that Gibbs did. If Murph's an 8.5, Gibbs had a 6.5 (but a 9.9 for what he showed for the future).

Agree with your Houlihan assessment. A great game from him.


I think he actually starts with 8/10 and adds from there

ZING!

Ignore the rankings then.

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A bit of effort from you both, TTD and Jim.....I enjoyed reading them.

I should have a go at it next weekend. Looks fun... :-D

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Good reading Jimmae, well done.

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Well done to everyone who's prepared to have a go.

An opinion can't be wrong, but be prepared for constructive criticism of what you've said. Don't let it dishearten or stop you from having a go though.

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Good reading Jimmae, well done.

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jimmae wrote:
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Good reading Jimmae, well done.

*Rubs his eyes*


It was a good original review/post, credit where it's due.

Well done. I really enjoyed reading it.

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Shut down Lachlan Hansen so has now solidified his role as one of the games defensive superstars.


Lachie was out there?!? :shock:

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Pafloyul wrote:
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Shut down Lachlan Hansen so has now solidified his role as one of the games defensive superstars.


Lachie was out there?!? :shock:

Not for long though.

Laidley has this mighty hammer of talent with which he can strike the heart of an opposition, yet wouldn't have a clue how to use it yet. Ditto Wells.

If I were Dean I would have given Hansen the job on Hartlett and worked him up from there as required (Whitnall, Fevola, etc). Then if that was effective swung him forward. He did very little of any of that.

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Id've given Murph a 9 :) ...thanks ttd2004, I enjoy reading these posts

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It's astounding that Eddie Betts didn't receive a best player nomination in either Melbourne newspaper, as I felt he was B.O.G. Not only did he have a high number of quality possessions, his work off the ball was outstanding.

As for rating Koutoufides as having a good game, I'd suggest having a look at the frequency of his turnovers. While he has received the ball a few times, his disposal has been deplorable this pre-season.

Gibbs' efforts in the first quarter were sensational, and Setanta is going to be a star; his effort against Thompson was fantastic.

Murphy, Fevola and Houlihan worked beautifully, and considering how the Kangaroos were focused on winning the NAB Cup, and that they are at peak fitness, this win is even more satisfying.

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Played, what, 3 games of wizzer cup footy Jim?

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And now... pizza for Jimmae.

I liked this bit :)

Seriously, good work from the both of you. Still bloody dirty on my VCR for flowering up so I couldn't tape the game. Great to know how everyone went. :-D

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Played, what, 3 games of wizzer cup footy Jim?

I didn't mean statistically... he will never be an athletic freak who shocks you with his movements on the field. He will just be class.

Same calibre, different style.

Fishing must be slow today.

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After the Kangaroos win in the NAB Cup, where Skinny only had a bit part role, I was left thinking that if this continues it will really show how far we are progressing. In the past we've needed a guy like Lappin to play a starring role for us to win a game, now it seems he can just chime in with half a dozen or so quality possessions a game and there'll be plenty of other guys to step in and contribute to the team. Let's hope this trend continues, not of Lappin not playing his best, just that if he doesn't it won't really matter too much.

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Great post camelboy re our previous dependence on Lappin's class.

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