Carrazzo is our heartbreak kid.

He breaks our hearts everytime the ball hits his boot.

Everything else he's a real gem at. One of the best young movers in the game, I reckon. His ability to make room, and his clean hands are supoib.

He's the model of a good "small". Quick, fit, strong, good height for a mid, super-competitive, strong at the ball, desperate to play at the top level, desperate to represent Carlton..........

but.........

The closest thing to precedent for Carrazzo is Ben Johnson (Collingwood). Very determined player who was good at every level besides his kicking, which sucked. Overtime, Malthouse had faith in him and now he's one of their prime movers who's kicking, though still not in the Stuart Dew bracket, is acceptible for AFL level.

Carrazzo will become a better kick with experience. He'll never drain them fom 65 out on the run from the boundary, but he will learn to hit targets, and pick out the right targets.

For now we have a few options with him

1) We drop him. Get him to iron out his problems in the 2s, and hope.
2) We find a spot for him in the team where his kicking is less of an issue.

I like the 2nd option. It'll keep him developing his overal game in the firsts, and will also force him to work out his kicking at the "proper pace" of the game.

But where do we stick him?

I believe the solution may be on-the-ball and on-a-man. If he's around stoppages, his hands, strength and movement will play a big part, and his kicks will be quicker, perhaps less precise by their nature (ie, less time to think about each disposal). Plus, he has the defensive nous, pace and fitness to seemingly go with anyone.

I wonder if he should get the gig as our number 1 defensive mid. McGrath is a more skillful bloke who could be moved back where his kicking could be more useful.

Bannister is handy, but around the ball he doesn't have the ability Carrazzo has.

I seriously think this is the go. Move Carrazzo onto a man. Their best ballwinner. Francou, or Kane Cornes, or..... someone in and under.

Move Carrazzo out of defence, and move him into the kitchen. Win for Andrew... win for the team.



Also, ever notice how Carrazzo, like Camporeale, has a non-Italian first name? Why not Adriano? What's the Italian "Andrew"?

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Reckon the forward line would be a good move as it forces him to get better with his kicking - he gets no choice. On the ball would be good, but for handballing and less kicks.

Having said this, I'm sure he'll look at improving his kicking no matter what posi he plays - here's hoping

Use him on the ball as a tagger where his stuff up's won't cost goals like last weeks hanging offence. Peverill's also a terrible kick but beats his man nearly every week whilst lacking Carrazzo's pace, and Andrew did show he can play there in the WOK.
He did have a shocker on the weekend but if he can stop Davey for 2 games in a row he is worth persisting with.

Jump on tyrant.Been advocating this move for yonks.The kid is a ball magnet.Check his stats at cats 2s and you will find he wracked up monster stats as an onballer.Query on his disposal for sure,but not nearly as bad as some might suggest.Anyhow,beggars cant be choosers,and we gotta get someone in there that can find the pill.There are guys on our list who will never get into double figure stats.The 1percenters are important in footy,but sooner or later ya just gotta get a kick.The foot soldier type is starting to wear a bit thin.Not enough getting anywhere near the possies they should.The beauty of Carrots is that he negates his man and gains possesion of the footy and can launch an attack from midfield.Could be the new Rats.And while we are on the midfield,bout time they chucked Davies in there instead of pissfarting around out on starvation corner.Chuck him in the guts and tell him to go for broke.He stuffs up because hes thinking about what hes going to do with it before he gets it.

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If you reckon he's coping a bagging missing targets out of the backline, wait til he misses a few on the forward line, or as Deano so finely put it he fails to kicks 8 goals a quarter like the other forward pockets in the AFL

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lets give the guy the chance to get a few games under his belt! - How many senior games has he played?? How old is he?

Lets see where he's at in two years - He did some bloody fantastic stuff Saturday - sure I was disappointed with his disposal but we've got to give him some time!

Patience: - A minor form of dispaird, disguised as a virtue!

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Developing nicely I reckon after playing 5 games and dont understand why everyone is hypercritical of this guy after last week and even if it was not a great game isnt he allowed one average game in 5
.Not sure why people are particularly critical of his disposal it needs work but no more than others in the team namely waite johnson davies wiggins prenda
-didnt see the criticism of the boy when in his 4th game beat Jason Johnson and got 21 possessions - 3 of which were clangers
Incidentally wasnt johnson BOG against Hawthorn last week and one of the reasons why Essendon* won and given the hype of how many good young players hawthorn are supposed to have then why didnt one of their good young players beat johnson when a player with so- called suspect disposal beat him. the week before.
He should be played in a variety of positions bp hbf and as part of the midfield rotation
Give the kid a go
I get a sense of deja vu it wasnt long ago when waite fev houlihan started that they were no good either-GIVE THE KID A GO

Weren't looking too hard frank....it was definitely out here.

We're becoming more Richmond everyday.

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Carazzos problem is simple.

He looks for the furthest option down the ground so he ends up kicking it so hard it travels over there head. If he hit the target he would look like a superstar, but he doesnt so it seems like his decision making and skills are crap.

He's just going for too much.

Moloney had the same problems when he was at the Cats, although he pulled it off every so often. Now, he does it and hit's the target and look how good he is.

Agreed, Frank.
Give him a go.
If Denis is prepared to back him in, so am I and so should the rest of you.
Remember...."In Pagan We Trust"

Just think how damaging he will be when he gets his disposal right.
He'll be a dangerous unit.

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Been posted on other threads, but Carazzo should be left in the Back Pocket to learn the caper.

Brett Ratten started off in the Back Pocket and was a straight nullifying tagger who didn't win as much of the ball as Carazzo does.

We will just have to grin and bear the "clangers" which I think aren't that many. Hasn't played 10 games yet, give the kid a chance.

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I wonder what would happen if we swapped Davies and Carrazzo around....
Frank, with Carrazzo he just bombs it long instead of pin pointing a player because he would be under the midcroscope if he tried pin pointing passes.
So often he elects to by pass the obvious pass and just kick a 'Hail Mary' to a contest .
Hulme used to do circle work using this theory. He always kicked it to a pack so his terrible disposal wouldnt stand out with a pass to a player.

Well, I don't mind Carazzo, I reckon he has a red hot go and think he deserves a break.

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Im not getting super critical on Carazzo but that doesnt mean he is undropable.
I think he looks better on telly than live at the game though. Live you can actually see what he by passes to kick the ball long .
Id like to have a look at what else we have in stock.
McGrath back in the pocket and Bentick in the middle for starters.

Yeah I'd have no dramas with that. By all accounts Bentick is playing well for the Ants, so...

Just reckon we get pretty critical of our kids, and expect too much too early. Not like the days were blokes like Doull had forever to develop with little expectation and no pressure.

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Agree with Frank....
5 games ...and the clanger count isn't huge..(like all clangers, noticeable and stick into the memory)
He's getting lots of possessions so the clnger V effective can't be that bad

He also has that "awkward" running and kicking style which gets less tolerance (Hi Prends and Wiggins if you're listening). Move like T-Bird, Kouta, Waite, Walker and McGrath and mistakes don't seem so visible

BTW Andrea, is Andrew.....I know why he'ld use Andrew...as for Scotty...don't know

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Beats me why Camporeale does not go by the name of "Royalfields".

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It's hard to believe it's only 5 games. He just looks like he belongs there. He has the ball-winning ability and appearance of a 50 gamer.

I like the idea of using him as a tagger or a midfielder in his own right.

I think at the moment perhaps he is kicking as long as he can because he's a kid and wants to please the coach and therefore do exactly what he thinks the coach wants for him (ie kick it long).

Give him a season under his belt to figure out some of the intricacies of the game and to gain some confidence. I am sure he'll improve.

True, at Carrazzos age Doull hadnt played a single game in the firsts.

No one is saying: "Carrazzo sucks... de-list him"

The thing is... I think we could get more out of him elsewhere... and other areas will allow him to mask his deficiencies a bit more... better for young Andrea, better for the club.

And, I think, around stoppages he would gun.

Synbad is right... he's just not picking the right passes. He also has plenty of time to think about them. Diminish time: diminish margin for error.. while still letting him grow.

Yep, Mickstar and I are in the on-ball bandwagon. Jump on! I'd have him AND Bentick in there.

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