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| Author: | budzy [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:19 pm ] |
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I watched Mark Maclure last night on Grumpy Old Men and he was asked about the great things about Carlton in the 80s. He said the best thing was the way that they’d go about teaching and passing on all the little things about how to improve your football and what things were needed to be done to win each particular game and what was needed to be successfull. Said the players used to go muck around and go to the pub and all that but would also as a group talk & teach each other about the little things that could improve a performance. Really emphasized how it was a great learning & teaching culture that passed on down through the ranks. He really seemed bewildered by the current situation at Carlton. I read of our leaders getting of the track as fast as they can and leaving the likes of the Irish to fend for themselves. How did this culture of teaching & learning seem to disappear? I hope we haven’t lost this part of our great culture for good. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:55 pm ] |
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A culture of mentoring is valuable in so many ways far more than money terms. When the clear out of players who may act selfishly is well and truly underway, we'll see that change within the Club. |
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| Author: | woof [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:19 pm ] |
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Our culture of not embracing drafting and developing our own has more to do with our current plight than our culture of teaching. When did it dissappear? I just read 10 questions with Adam Bentick and he quoted that Nick Stevens was the one he sought out for advice. I respect Mark Maclure but his coach for a majority of his playing career David Parkin has his name written all over this mess we are in today. Our 1995 - 99 drafts yielded 4 players, Whitnall a no brainer selection, Fevola a good get, Houlihan and Prendegast. Thanks David for the culture of nuturing. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:25 pm ] |
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woof wrote: Our culture of not embracing drafting and developing our own has more to do with our current plight than our culture of teaching.
Thanks David for the culture of nuturing. True, but the culture of mentoring, and teaching also comes with developing and drafting the sort of players who have the leadership skills to take a younger player under their wing and teach them one-on-one. Similar drafting policy to Sydney's "no flower" policy And, yes, unfortunately, it comes back to Parkin. |
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| Author: | phoenix johnson [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:31 pm ] |
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Quote: How did this culture of teaching & learning seem to disappear?
It disappeared thanks to selfish so called leaders. I can see us having a strong culture once our recent crop of draftees all develop and mature. All lead by Murph of course. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:46 pm ] |
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phoenix johnson wrote: Quote: How did this culture of teaching & learning seem to disappear? It disappeared thanks to selfish so called leaders. I can see us having a strong culture once our recent crop of draftees all develop and mature. All lead by Murph of course. Hit. Nail. Head. |
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| Author: | budzy [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:17 pm ] |
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Is it fair to say that Kernahan was our last great onfield leader/teacher? If so, how did the cycle fall apart? Who is responsible for the breakdown of the teaching process which created the great Carlton playing culture? There are some big names over the last 10 years who maybe shouldn't be looked up to as highly as they are amongst the Carlton faithfull. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:22 pm ] |
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budzy wrote: There are some big names over the last 10 years who maybe shouldn't be looked up to as highly as they are amongst the Carlton faithfull.
Unfortunately, that's the awful truth, budzy. |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:36 pm ] |
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I think we went wrong in appointing Bradley as Kernahan's replacement. Silvagni was a great on field leader and should have been made captain. Ratten/McKay weren't in the position long enough or out on the ground long enough to have any real impact as captain. Kouta isn't an on field leader. Its just been a steep decline since the great man hung up his booots 
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:56 pm ] |
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TruBlueBrad wrote: I think we went wrong in appointing Bradley as Kernahan's replacement. Silvagni was a great on field leader and should have been made captain.
Ratten/McKay weren't in the position long enough or out on the ground long enough to have any real impact as captain. Kouta isn't an on field leader. Its just been a steep decline since the great man hung up his booots Indeed, Brad. Bradley was a great player, but not as much a team man as maybe was thought... |
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| Author: | Pickle [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:28 pm ] |
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TruBlueBrad wrote: I think we went wrong in appointing Bradley as Kernahan's replacement. Silvagni was a great on field leader and should have been made captain.
Ratten/McKay weren't in the position long enough or out on the ground long enough to have any real impact as captain. Kouta isn't an on field leader. Its just been a steep decline since the great man hung up his booots Absolutely spot on!!! |
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| Author: | billy_bongo [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:55 pm ] |
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Unsubstantiated waffle..... |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:59 pm ] |
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billy_bongo wrote: Unsubstantiated waffle.....
Another Pulitzer Prize derving post by billy. Argue the point, billy, rather than just blurt out the first thing to come to mind..... |
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